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Michigan outlaws the 'gay and trans panic defense' in criminal trials
NBC News ^ | July 24, 2024 | Isabel Yip

Posted on 07/29/2024 10:12:56 AM PDT by fwdude

Michigan has outlawed the so-called gay and trans panic defense, which allows criminal defense attorneys to use a victim’s sexual orientation or gender identity as a defense argument.

Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer, a Democrat, signed House Bill 4718 into law Tuesday. The legislation states that an individual’s “actual or perceived sex, gender identity, gender expression, or sexual orientation” is not admissible in a criminal trial to “demonstrate reasonable provocation,” “show that an act was committed in a heat of passion” or “support a defense of reduced mental capacity.”

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: Michigan
KEYWORDS: gestapogretchen; gretchenwhitmer; homosexualagenda; housebill4718; michigan
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What these restrictions of the "gay panic defense" do in practice is provide immunity to aggressive sodomites who want to either assault or defraud normal people. They are weaponization of their will to assault others.

If some queer "dry humps" an unwilling bar goer, who then punches the queer out, the assaulted bar goer gets put in the "suspect" box as the criminal.

1 posted on 07/29/2024 10:12:56 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: fwdude

Link to the bill:

https://legislature.mi.gov/documents/2023-2024/billenrolled/House/pdf/2023-HNB-4718.pdf


2 posted on 07/29/2024 10:14:10 AM PDT by fwdude
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I’m assuming this doesn’t apply to race.


3 posted on 07/29/2024 10:14:23 AM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham ("God is a spirit, and man His means of walking on the earth.")
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I’m assuming this doesn’t apply to race.

The separate race angle has been in place since the CRA of 1964.

4 posted on 07/29/2024 10:15:43 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: Mr Ramsbotham

Or to heterosexuals.


5 posted on 07/29/2024 10:16:11 AM PDT by Indy Pendance (Jesus can't get here soon enough!)
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To: fwdude

“If some queer “dry humps” an unwilling bar goer, who then punches the queer out, the assaulted bar goer gets put in the “suspect” box as the criminal.”

I always found that, “thank you, I’m not interested” works just fine. And, for the aggressive drunk, a pointed, “No!” also works. But the latter only happened once in seventy years as I tended to avoid places where I’d have to say that.


6 posted on 07/29/2024 10:18:18 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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To: fwdude

What if a lesbian is surprised by a chick with a dick? Does she have enough intersectional and trauma points to off him and walk?


7 posted on 07/29/2024 10:19:22 AM PDT by heartwood (If you're looking for the /sarc tag, you just passed it..)
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"In a statement shared on Tuesday, the governor’s office said the bill 'significantly expands' protections for the LGBTQ community 'by protecting them from violent acts of discrimination, prejudice, and hate crimes.'"

Huh! Now, simple "prejudice" is criminalized? So, if a guy is on a dating app and answers the ad from some woman, but spurns the "woman" when he finds out it is a cross-dressing man, he's guilty of a crime?

8 posted on 07/29/2024 10:19:46 AM PDT by fwdude
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We’ll, I’m talking about assault, as in a man rubbing his crotch ON YOUR BODY unsolicited and unwanted.

If you don’t punch the queer out, you’ve got problems. This is no different than a guy trying to rape you.


9 posted on 07/29/2024 10:21:55 AM PDT by fwdude
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If some queer "dry humps" an unwilling bar goer,

The queer commits assault and battery.

In Michigan, the queer also commits 750.520e Criminal sexual conduct in the fourth degree; misdemeanor.

10 posted on 07/29/2024 10:24:27 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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I think the new law states that if a gay guy touches you, you press charges and put him behind bars.


11 posted on 07/29/2024 10:36:57 AM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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Any criminal can take advantage of that.
Just pose as queer to rob and assault anyone.

Sorry, queer person. The guy you assaulted is in prison.
He will not bother you again.


12 posted on 07/29/2024 10:39:16 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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To: fwdude

I would think it was more related to trans people hoodwinking people.


13 posted on 07/29/2024 10:40:01 AM PDT by AppyPappy (Biden told Al Roker "America is back". Unfortunately, he meant back to the 1970's)
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To: fwdude

Does that apply for a woman, too?


14 posted on 07/29/2024 10:40:41 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Bye done!)
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You are wrong on this. It was signed into law by a radical progressive.

Ask yourself...Why?

I will tell you why.

These mutilated and broken children will soon start taking revenge on their groomer parents, teachers, councilors and doctors. This law is meant to prevent their defense.


15 posted on 07/29/2024 10:40:52 AM PDT by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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“We’ll, I’m talking about assault, as in a man rubbing his crotch ON YOUR BODY unsolicited and unwanted.”

Wow! Okay, never experienced that. But I was never really in a situation where something like that might have happened.


16 posted on 07/29/2024 10:42:04 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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The queer commits assault and battery.

This new law gives him implied immunity. The victim is not allowed to object.

17 posted on 07/29/2024 10:42:06 AM PDT by fwdude
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To: nitzy

My apologies. I read the article wrong. I thought that it was outlawing the perpetrator from using gender or sexual orientation confusion as a defense. Admins can remove that if they want.


18 posted on 07/29/2024 10:43:34 AM PDT by nitzy (Everything makes sense once you realize that we don't rule over ourselves and our rulers hate us.)
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To: fwdude

Perhaps the Criminal Sexual Conduct statute might still apply ...


19 posted on 07/29/2024 10:44:32 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: AppyPappy
I would think it was more related to trans people hoodwinking people.

That's definitely a big part of it.

There was a bar check at a famous "gay" bar in my city. Some of the drunken queers "dry humped" the officers. Nothing happened to the queers, and the cops were called on the carpet for responding to the assault.

20 posted on 07/29/2024 10:44:33 AM PDT by fwdude
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