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Trump Gunman Flew Drone Over Rally Site Hours Before Attempted Assassination
WSJ ^ | 7/19/2024 | Sadie Gurman and Aruna Viswanatha

Posted on 07/19/2024 4:39:47 PM PDT by God luvs America

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To: mass55th
"Whistleblowers claim Trump's security detail was mostly ‘unfamiliar’ DHS agents, not Secret Service, Sen. Hawley reveals.""

Nope, that doesn't work. There were LOTS of folks there that were "unfamiliar" with security and they easily spotted the perp on the roof with a gun.

That's just more meaningless chaff to pile on the cover-up.

301 posted on 07/20/2024 5:58:02 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: mass55th

Was there ever such a thing as a “temp” security guard brought in from some other police field?


302 posted on 07/20/2024 6:02:51 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: AnthonySoprano
To me, that's the #1 unanswered question.  Forget all the chat about roof slope, ladders, drones, etc.

The authorities knew for close to a half hour - if not longer - that there was a suspicious character on site.  How and why was President Trump allowed to walk on that stage with the information that was already known?

At the very least, heads need to roll over this communication failure.  At its worst, some necks need to suffer from rope burns.

303 posted on 07/20/2024 6:04:08 AM PDT by mellow velo
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To: july4thfreedomfoundation

Then he has inside contacts still.


304 posted on 07/20/2024 6:04:29 AM PDT by xzins (Retired US Army chaplain. Support our troops by praying for their victory. )
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To: DrewsMum

SS is a department under the umbrella of Homeland Security. He meant that some of Trump’s detail were from another department under Homeland Security and were not actually Secret Service.

The Bushies started Homeland Security and now we can see that it wasn’t a very good idea.


305 posted on 07/20/2024 6:05:25 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Sarah Barracuda
"let’s not forget he had 3 foreign bank accounts..seriously, a 20 yr old with THREE foreign bank accounts."

Well, maybe he was thinking of running for congress...

306 posted on 07/20/2024 6:06:10 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: dforest

“some of Trump’s detail were from another department under Homeland Security”

Yes. HSI. None are trained in protecting. They’re investigators.


307 posted on 07/20/2024 6:12:57 AM PDT by MayflowerMadam (It's not as if Biden has the nuclear codes or anything. 😳)
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To: dforest

Yes that’s my understanding also.

I misunderstood the context of “other” DHS .

I didn’t hear him say it so I was unclear. Thanks for clarifying.


308 posted on 07/20/2024 6:13:08 AM PDT by DrewsMum
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To: xzins

If this is true and the convention SS detail tall, stout men makes this more probable than most people realize. Trump has kicked the democrats provide SS to the curb.

There is going to be more curb kicking once he is elected. These vile people tried to kill him and his demeanor has changed. President Trump is pissed. Really pissed.


309 posted on 07/20/2024 6:17:10 AM PDT by eartick (Stupidity is expecting the government that broke itself to go out and fix itself. Texan for TEXIT)
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To: eartick
"These vile people tried to kill him and his demeanor has changed. President Trump is pissed. Really pissed."

I agree, and that makes it even dangerous for DJT,...they will try again. As chine joe said to Trump on the phone call "why did you move your head?"

310 posted on 07/20/2024 7:02:16 AM PDT by Lockbar (Even when you think you finally have enough ammo, you still really don't have enough. )
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To: TigersEye

I hate being fair to these people, but Cheatle needed to be at the convention to observe her SS team in action, show that she was in command, and make darned sure SS agents weren’t in the cloak room with hookers and “DEI Digest” or otherwise failing. Plus, Mayorkas probably ordered her to show the flag to forestall the inevitable criticism if she didn’t.

Cheatle literally running away from questions might not have been the image he hoped for...


311 posted on 07/20/2024 7:21:35 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: Chewbarkah
She was on her way to a luxury suite sponsored by a contractor.
312 posted on 07/20/2024 7:26:06 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$
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To: iontheball
"Has anyone seen the video with the guy on the top of the water tower?"

I saw some fuzzy videos and likewise stills... It could have been anything from Bigfoot, a moose or a covey of martians..

313 posted on 07/20/2024 7:26:52 AM PDT by unread (I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America, and to the REPUBLIC..!)
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To: Does so

Some years earlier Crooks was in a Blackrocks TV commercial. And it is rumored that the building he shot from is owned by a company funded by Blackrock.


314 posted on 07/20/2024 7:32:04 AM PDT by Responsibility2nd (A truth that's told with bad intent, Beats all the lies you can invent ~ Wm. Blake)
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To: madison10
I have a theory (don’t we all): That is that the agents, Deep State, whomever, allowed the kid to do all the set up, investigation, buying supplies, etc. The kid thought he was certainly going to carry out the hit. They (alphabets) knew everything about him and expected him to go there, set him up in fact, BUT they put someone in the building to take the actual shot as insurance.

Americans desperately need these theories; if we learn that our agencies are staffed with bumbling mediocrities, we'll start thinking that maybe we're just as mediocre as anyone else, and that we suffer the effects of original sin just like everyone else in the world does.

(And if we're in the "greatest country in the world", then we certainly can't have that.)

315 posted on 07/20/2024 8:02:43 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: Yolanda
Oh sweetie, you actually believe the attempted assassination was the work of just a 20 year old?

Of course not; such a thing could never happen in the "greatest country in the world".

It could only be a conspiracy, and a massive one.

316 posted on 07/20/2024 8:04:48 AM PDT by Captain Walker ("It is infinitely better to have a few good Men, than many indifferent ones." - George Washington)
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To: xzins
"Was there ever such a thing as a “temp” security guard brought in from some other police field?"

I've never heard of it happening, especially when the people brought in, weren't even actual Secret Service agents, but TSA agents. That's crossing over into a totally different agency. That's like taking a Border Patrol Officer and sticking them in an airport for a day or two, processing travelers. It would be a breach of security. The other thing is that it may violate Federal law, Civil Service Law, and/or Federal Labor Law.

I worked in NY State Corrections. There's no way that any other uniformed State employee such as a member of Park Police, Campus Police, or State Police would be allowed to cross-over and work in another agency's slot, even temporarily. I was a Peace Officer. They are all Police Officers. I could carry a weapon on the job, and off, purchase weapons on my badge. I had to qualify each year on the weapons the agency used in order to keep my Peace Officer status. When I retired, it ended.

I also found through a search that the majority of TSA officers are security officers, not police officers. They have no arrest authority and can't carry weapons, but there are some who are law enforcement officers, and can and do carry a weapon on their job. That still doesn't mean they can be pulled from one agency, and used in another. It never happens.

317 posted on 07/20/2024 8:28:01 AM PDT by mass55th (“Courage is being scared to death, but saddling up anyway.” ― John Wayne)
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To: nickcarraway

Still, it seems the shooter was more thorough than the SS.


318 posted on 07/20/2024 9:33:04 AM PDT by oldbrowser ( )
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To: DrewsMum

Actually I heard it (DEA) early on. I don’t remember exactly but I think it was a former SS person as a guest on a news show. Actually later I believe it was stated they were from Homeland Security Investigations and that’s what is being said now. I don’t even know if that (that they were HSI) is official from the USSS/HS offices. Have they even addressed the issue? They are ridiculously silent as far as I know and I have been paying fairly close attention.


319 posted on 07/20/2024 9:43:45 AM PDT by clashfan (Eat vegetables. Don't elect them.)
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To: Does so

The whole thing is being left to practically nothing but speculation. We’ll see who shows up and answers questions from Congress.


320 posted on 07/20/2024 9:47:02 AM PDT by clashfan (Eat vegetables. Don't elect them.)
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