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Trump says he is not a supporter of sanctions against Russia
Global USA News ^ | July 17, 2024 | : Richard Lloyd

Posted on 07/17/2024 9:28:50 AM PDT by Kazan

Trump said that he is not a supporter of sanctions against Russia

US presidential candidate Donald Trump said in an interview with Bloomberg that he is not a supporter of sanctions.

“I don’t like sanctions,” he said, commenting on the policy of the current White House administration towards Russia.

At the same time, as the agency specifies, the former president made it clear that he is equally cool to the idea of protecting Taiwan from a possible invasion of mainland China and attempts to “punish” Russia for the special operation in Ukraine.

(Excerpt) Read more at globalusanews.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: china; failedsanctionwar; imshocked; russia; shocked; shockedface; shocking; trump
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To: larrytown

Sour grapes? Vote Biden then.


21 posted on 07/17/2024 10:08:54 AM PDT by Karl Spooner
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To: married21
I’m not liking either position. If Taiwan goes, China goes after the Philippines next, and so on.

If China really wants to go after after Taiwan...they'll have it. That's just a fact. Would Taiwan be worth starting a nuclear event over? I'm not so sure. The current countries we know largely came about due to war/conflict. Perhaps that's just the way of things.

China is playing the long game since they have that ability. They don't have the changes in elected officials every few years, and we can't even get our elected officials to follow the desires of their constituencies half of the time.

22 posted on 07/17/2024 10:18:47 AM PDT by voicereason (When a bartender can join Congress and become a millionaire...there’s a problem.)
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To: married21
WRT Russia, just saying Putin won’t be aggressive because he “likes” Trump is just ridiculous. That’s not how Putin thinks.

I understand what you are saying, but you need to read the article from six years ago that Rabbi Dov Fischer wrote about President Trump and how he conducts himself: https://spectator.org/everyone-is-smart-except-trump/

23 posted on 07/17/2024 10:23:35 AM PDT by Dahoser
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To: fwdude

—These sanctions have hurt us too.

—They have arguably hurt our European allies more than the Russians!

The Russians have been also impacted, but far - far less than some had hoped for and predicted. They have something which others need, not want, but need: oil and gas. Most of what the Russians lost in gas and oil sales to the West or those aligned with us, they have made up by increases in sales to India and China, which have masterfully used this crisis to their advantage and set in place long term low cost oil and gas deals with Russia.

Sanctions like these in place follow the following logic: I’m going to hurt myself also, but hopefully much less than the other guy who will bleed out before me. They are inherently a lose - lose situation.

For someone that thinks like Trump, growth oriented, sanctions are inherently a bad thing. They may be a necessary evil, but they are not desired.


24 posted on 07/17/2024 10:51:21 AM PDT by Red6
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To: married21

How do you know what Putin thinks?

We don’t always need war or sanctions to settle things.


25 posted on 07/17/2024 10:57:09 AM PDT by dforest
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To: Kazan

Well he’s not wrong about the distance factor with Taiwan. IF China goes in it would be over long before we could respond even if we want to. We are certainly not invading after the fact to take it back. IDK if we even could.


26 posted on 07/17/2024 10:58:22 AM PDT by 3RIVRS
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To: larrytown

Biden is all for WWIII and bankrupting American taxpayers. He has his own website where you can express how pleased you are with his foreign policy.

Of course, in your own mind, you and the Zeeper trolls are the only people that aren’t ignorant around this terrible place. /s

We know the type.


27 posted on 07/17/2024 11:03:55 AM PDT by dforest
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To: dforest; Karl Spooner

Thank you for illustrating my point.


28 posted on 07/17/2024 11:31:11 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: 3RIVRS

The American response is not 9500 miles from Taiwan.


29 posted on 07/17/2024 11:37:24 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Red6

Russia is also a massive grain and other agricultural producer/exporter. It is essentially the bread basket of the Eastern Hemisphere.


30 posted on 07/17/2024 11:41:02 AM PDT by fwdude ( Never trust a movement whose symbol is a raised fist.)
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To: Red6
The Russians have been also impacted, but far - far less than some had hoped for and predicted.

Russia has benefited from the sanctions.

Russia's first quarter GDP was 5.4%>

Oil sells itself and there are no shortages of buyers for it. The stupid Europeans are still getting more than half of their oil from Russia via third parties and paying more of it.

Most importantly, the sanction war forced rich Russian oligarchs to keep their money within Russia.

It's past time to stop defending failed, Biden regime policies.

31 posted on 07/17/2024 11:42:07 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: 3RIVRS
There is nothing that would stop China from taking Taiwan if it wanted to, just like it took Hong Kong, except for negative economic fallout from doing so.

A war with Taiwan would kill tens of thousands leave Taiwan in rumble. That certainly isn't going to benefit those living there.

32 posted on 07/17/2024 11:45:43 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: tennmountainman

Trump will knee cap Zelensky and the Ukies.
———-
…and even possibly recover some of that $$$ billions that was grifted from US taxpayers. Everyone in the world’s government and the financial world knows about the Filthy Ukie toilet.

Trump does to.


33 posted on 07/17/2024 11:46:01 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Kazan

I’m glad this article posted the comments in full.

In my opinion, the net effect of sanctions was permanent damage to western europe


34 posted on 07/17/2024 12:14:23 PM PDT by Mount Athos
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To: Kazan

Why should we be sanctioning a government that’s far less of a threat to what America should be than our own?


35 posted on 07/17/2024 12:38:32 PM PDT by Socon-Econ (adi)
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To: Kazan

The best thing to combat Russia is to re-open the pipeline. Hit them in the pocketbook


36 posted on 07/17/2024 1:03:51 PM PDT by RonnG ('')
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To: Kazan

On issues like this, you can’t look at growth, which the Russians have, as indicative of the sanctions not hurting them or having any impact.

There is a difference between 3% and the potential of 5% growth which they maybe could have had: https://www.investopedia.com/terms/o/opportunitycost.asp

Western MSM is reporting it:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-ministry-sees-2024-gdp-28-with-higher-inflation-weaker-rouble-2024-04-23/

https://www.imf.org/en/Countries/RUS

https://www.cnbc.com/2024/04/17/russia-forecast-to-grow-faster-than-advanced-economies-in-2024-imf.html

They are not giving it the credit or value it deserves, remember how big the story was when these sanctions were put in place? Now with the sanctions basically being a bust in terms of really damaging the Russian economy, they get little coverage.

Sanctions are a lose-lose proposition, and it would make sense for Trump to end this stupidity too, since it’s PROVEN to be ineffective at this point. But this is also a matter of public opinions and perceptions and folks will attack Trump as being sympathetic to the Russians even if he’s actually acting in OUR best economic interest as well.


37 posted on 07/17/2024 1:17:23 PM PDT by Red6
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To: RonnG
How about this,

(1) Dissipate the cause of this war: We give the Russians what they want. Yes, you heard that right, give them what they want, No NATO on their border other than what already is.

The prospect of nukes, hyper-sonic missiles with 6 minutes time of flight to Moscow, missile defense, Western forces being stationed in large numbers on their border long term... doesn't turn them on. And do you blame them? Would you want that done to us? Of course not.

(2) End this stupid ass war by making Ukraine negotiate in earnest.

(3) Let Ukraine have elections. Let Mr. Z move on. He's hated in Ukraine and only a hero in the West, with us having put him in power and propping him up. That's why we were 100% on board with Mr Z canceling the elections (I thought this war is about Democracy? LOL). We knew he'd be toast if that happens.

(4) End the sanctions. Everyone loses with those, literally.

(5) Try to create a long term big picture stability: Readdress the Conventional Forces Europe, Ballistic Missile Treaty and no NATO East expansion (new versions of them and make the later promise formal). Attempt to make formal, public, international agreements, with procedures for a remedy to a problem in place. HEAD IN THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION SINCE 2004: create dialog and mutual engagement, creating trust, and deescalation, methods to address a dispute, a punishment/cost for violating it...

If you really want to get down to it, and the hard core Russian hating folks here aren't going to accept this, this entire war in Ukraine, the dead, crippled, trillions in wealth lost, millions of refugees, the increased risk in a nuclear conflict, increase in proxy threats around the world is all simply because we chose to ignore Russia and do whatever we want. This caused a war: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/ There is no getting around that. And it was (((OUR))) call.

What Russia thinks does matter. Point made.

***Here's the real danger! While Trump will end this war. The forces of stupid which caused it, persist. Russia has no lobbying effort in the US. They do not contribute to election campaigns nor donate big to the parties nor form a PAC. There is little trade between our nations and our oligarchs/corporations don't use Russia as a base for manufacturing. Russia doesn't have a US media engagement plan nor is their media relevant in the US since about 2017: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-41991683

This war is the consequence of the West having “interests” that are unchecked. We act with impunity. The Russian voice is missing. China has a voice. That is why you see this HUGE difference in how we deal with Russia vs. China, even though it is China which poses a larger national security threat to us, it is China that is far-far worse in terms of human rights, democracy, and all the other horse shit we pretend are the motivation for our involvement in Ukraine.

38 posted on 07/17/2024 2:04:55 PM PDT by Red6
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