Posted on 07/16/2024 8:15:48 PM PDT by TigerClaws
President Biden was raked over the coals by a group of center-left House Democrats on Saturday in what sources said was a "tense" – even "awful" – meeting aimed at stemming defections on Capitol Hill.
Why it matters: Biden got particularly animated towards a question from Rep. Jason Crow (D-Colo.) about slipping public confidence in his leadership as commander-in-chief, according to several members in the meeting.
"That was a complete disaster. We saw the same Joe Biden from the debate," said one House Democrat on the call. "It was awful," said another lawmaker. A third told Axios: "Members were not holding back ... it got tense with Crow for sure."
What we're hearing: Biden huddled virtually with the center-left New Democrat Coalition as part of an outreach campaign to Capitol Hill to try to stem the flow of statements calling for him to drop out.
Reps. Marc Veasey (D-Texas) and Chrissy Houlahan (D-Pa.) grilled Biden on how he plans to turn his campaign around, according to two lawmakers.
In response to Veasey asking how Biden plans to win back disaffected voters, Biden said in part that members need to do a better job advertising his administration's accomplishments.
As Houlahan outlined distressing polling numbers, Biden interrupted to try to add caveats, with Houlahan having to interject to finish her question, members said.
Zoom in: Crow's question prompted what two members described as "shouting" from Biden, who went off on a tangent and challenged the Coloradan to "name me a foreign leader who thinks I'm not the most effective leader."
"Tell me who the hell that is," Biden continued, without directly addressing Crow's question about voter confidence, saying it is "dead wrong" that foreign leaders lack confidence in him and exclaiming, "I don't want to hear that crap."
Said one member on the call: "He started shouting at Jason Crow for no reason." A source familiar with Biden's answer stressed that the exchange ended on a positive note, with Biden saying: "If you're really getting input that I'm not strong enough, and I'd like to know more detail, because I want to deal with it."
Zoom in: After the three questions, Biden told members he had to depart for mass, one lawmaker told Axios.
Rep. Mike Quigley (D-Ill.), one of the 19 House Democrats who have publicly called for Biden to withdraw, was next up to ask a question, according to two members. Quigley was "visibly not happy that he was not going to be able to ask a question," one of the members said.
The intrigue: Biden's meeting with the Congressional Progressive Caucus, which took place right before the New Democrats meeting, went far smoother, lawmakers told Axios.
Most of the questions on that call were effusive towards Biden except one which got "80%" of the way towards calling on Biden to drop out, one lawmaker said.
Biden laid out "ideas for how to take the agenda further," Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.) said after the call, adding, "If I was his staff trying to give him some enthusiasm, I would have scheduled a call with the Progressive Caucus."
Biden announced a "major" Supreme Court reform policy in the works, according to two sources familiar with the call.
The bottom line: Lawmakers who spoke to Axios about the New Democrats call said they found Biden's answers unsatisfying and are no more assured about his path to victory than they were coming into the call.
"He had no answer to questions about his electability. He seemed oblivious to the polling that shows him losing swing states. He didn't want to hear it ... He didn't try to reassure anyone. He took no responsibility," one said.
That lawmaker said a statement calling for Biden to withdraw from the race is "under consideration" and the meeting "probably" makes it more likely they will release it.
Related:
[Biden told Rep. Jason Crow] “‘Tell me something you’ve never done with your Bronze Star like my son,’ this member of Congress told me. ‘Had the assassination attempt not occurred an hour later, I imagine 50 people on that Zoom were ready to come out publicly against him’”
https://x.com/nick_field90/status/1813403450572439807
Chum is in the water.
I don’t want Biden to drop out. He’s eminently beatable. Right now the Dims are discouraged and demoralized, and a change at the top might fire them up. Of course, anyone taking Biden’s place will still be saddled with Bidenomics. President Trump is in a good position right now. Just keep fighting!
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Joe Biden has been the same for 50 years.
Well, at least he didn’t ask one of them, are you a Junkie?
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Lawmakers who spoke to Axios about the New Democrats phone call to Biden said:
<><>they found Biden’s answers unsatisfying
<><>they are less assured about his path to victory than they were coming into the call.
<><>He had no answer to questions about his electability.
<><>He seemed oblivious to the polling that shows him losing swing states.
<><>He didn’t want to hear it ...
<><>He didn’t try to reassure anyone.
<><>He took no responsibility,” one said.
<><>upshot? a statement calling for Biden to withdraw is “under consideration”
<><>the phone call “probably” makes it more likely they will release it.
It is interesting the truly crazy fringe lefties are the ones that are still rock solid for Traitor Joe.
“Center left”?!
It’s always “far right”, but now they have actually found a center left point to distinguish a point on a continuum.
You know, with all the “he’s like Hitler “ being casually tossed around...
Ain’t it ironic that Slow Joe is acting just like Hitler at the end; too detached from reality to listen to good advice.
I agree.
We want Biden to shuffle along to election day. Helps us.
No such thing now as Moderate Democrats
Wow...”Biden said in part that members need to do a better job advertising his administration’s accomplishments.”
1. Our messaging stinks
2. But listen up YOU people in Congress. YOU need to do a better job of messaging my accomplishments.
If there WERE ANY accomplishments, we know the Democrat members would be crowing about them every day.
But there AREN’T ANY. All they have is Trump is a Fascist, Trump will kill Democracy, and Trump will not let you kill your baby. That is it.
Don’t let push you around, Joe!

Sorry, losers, Jill ain't budging, Joe ain't coherent and your malicious "Trump's Hitler" attacks just had all the air drained out of them by one of your own little street thugs.
Sucks to be you! But it always did.
“It is interesting the truly crazy fringe lefties are the ones that are still rock solid for Traitor Joe.”
Which tells me they are the ones controlling the Presidency.
Center-left democrats.
Joe lacked the nerve to confront his accusers face to face.
He was allowed to pontifcate and bloviate behind the safety of a Zoom lense.
There is no “Center Left” anymore.
>> Biden told members he had to depart for mass
Mass, my ass. :-)
>> There is no “Center Left” anymore.
There never was such a thing.
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