Posted on 07/13/2024 8:38:25 PM PDT by NetAddicted
Former President Donald Trump is lucky to be alive on Saturday night after an assassination attempt on him at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
A supporter was reportedly killed and Fox is reporting that two others were critically injured.
As we reported, Trump issued a statement about the incident, thinking first of the supporter who was killed and that person's family, as well as the people injured. But he also spoke about what it was like to be injured.
You can check out more on the statement here.
READ MORE: Donald Trump Shares Details of Shooting From Hospital Bed
But now there's a truly amazing set of pictures from Doug Mills of the New York Times. He got a picture of what some believe may be the bullet that hit Trump.
We should note that while some journalists are calling it the bullet, neither The New York Times nor the photographer have made that claim at this point. In the third picture on the right, you can see the blood on his hands from this ear.
Had Trump's head been angled differently, it might have turned out very differently. Thankfully, God's hand was on Trump, and he's okay.
Here's Fox video of the full shooting. You can hear Trump saying 'get my shoes,' people then very happy when he raises his fist that he's okay, and they hustle him off. You can also hear Secret Service saying "shooter down." Then supporters were also chanting "USA, USA!" as they rushed Trump out.
In the past, Trump has praised the NY Times photographer who took the series of pictures at the rally. “He’s the No. 1 photographer in the world,” Trump has said, also calling him a "genius photographer." He certainly proved his mettle with this series, as the shots were flying.
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Must be the exit, as the shooter was to DJT’s right or else its something on the lens.
Well, there goes the theory it was a .22
I agree. No way that’s a bullet. At least not if he was using a normal camera. More likely it’s a fragment of some sort.
That said, you can buy high-speed cameras these days for not huge amounts of money that I’m pretty sure could capture a bullet in flight without a flash.
I expressed later that the streak could include fragmented threads of Trump’s bright red hat.
(Picked up by a female SS guard, which could become the most valuable momento in U.S. Presidential history...!)
This was a SUPERSONIC bullet.
No chance without a strobe...
I think the integration time on modern high-speed cameras is short enough to capture a bullet without a strobe.
About that bullet path photo.
If we know the shutter speed, and estimate the path length, and adjust for perspective (behind Trump a little), can the bullet velocity be calculated?
Since we’re not looking at a “photo-stopped” bullet, it would be more accurate to take another of his [new 50] cartridges and fire it through a screen that measures such velocities across that known distance.
https://www.sierrabullets.com/exterior-ballistics/2-3-1-initial-velocity-and-final-velocity-method/
I am saying this as a retired government “Forensic Ballistics” examiner of 27 years, who never was required to determine bullet velocities for the courtroom.
I just heard (Kuhner-WRKO Boston) that the SS was inside the building where the shooter was located on the roof!
The bullet discussed in your link had a velocity of about 2500 fps when it was about 100 yards downrange. Assuming the one in the Trump photo is moving at a similar speed, then it would be traveling 2.5 feet per millisecond. Judging by the length of the blur, I would say it traveled about 1 foot during the camera exposure. Or maybe a little longer if its path is foreshortened by the camera being off-axis from true broadside. So maybe we say it traveled about 2 feet, or to make the math simple we can say 2.5 ft.
Given this, the camera’s exposure time would’ve been 1/1000 of a second, which seemed unrealistically short when I was thinking about it the other day. But after doing a little poking around, it’s really not. Many consumer cameras can do exposures as short as 1/8000 of a second, and when shooting a bright outdoor scene 1/1000 is probably not that uncommon.
So I’m going to flip flop and say the blur in that photo probably is the bullet.
I was a professional photographer. That guy was using a pro level camera. I would easily be shooting at 1/1000, or faster on a bright day like that.
On a hot, humid day I’ve also seen bullets “cut through the air.”
That shot seems perfectly reasonable for the equipment and the weather.
I only wanted to check velocity to see if it is consistant with 223/5.56 at that distance, and maybe with or without a supressor.
Or, slower, like a 22LR.
Or some other round, like from a different rifle of diffenent caliber or different distance (like from a 2nd shooter).
Such an analysis would confirm the narrative, or ... not, raising a couple of more questions.
Yeah, that sounds right to me.
Many consumer cameras can do exposures as short as 1/8000 of a second, and this was a very seasoned famous pro photographer.
A Forensic Ballistics acquaintance has come up with these “goes-intas”, which gives credit to each of our contributions.
My own observation regarding an absence of strobe lighting is “reflected” in the last sentence.
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“If you do a quick calculation of the bullet speed of ~2950fps versus a shutter speed of possibly 1/8000 sec one ends up with a distance of ~12 cm (6”) for the bullet’s travel. So a shutter of 1/4000 sec. would be ~12”. This length of the “line” seems to be fitting.
“Maybe he got the glare from the sunlight on the bullet as ilumination.”
See above...
What you see is actually pretty similar to contrails. The bullet moving through hot, humid air has to push the water vapor out of the way. That causes the water to heat up, and it suddenly decompresses after the bullet passes.
Once the air returns to the original pressure, the water dissipates. It happens in less than a second.
I’ve seen it at the range. It looks like a “mirage” from the point of view of the firearm.
OK, so it’s not a 22LR. Could be some non AR-15 centerfire.
Someone posted a different analysis.
Using time of flight from shooter to Trump.
Getting times from sounds off of recordings/vidoes/maybe comms.
Also was about 2800 plus or minus as I recall, consistent with a 223/5.56 anyway.
Gee noone has found the bullets and compared to rifle, etc. (that they have told us about)
But there sure got that DNA done Quick.
“Has Trump been compared to Teddy Roosevelt?”
^
Jeff Kuhner’s WRKO radio show had a caller who is promoting a petition to have Donald Trump join Teddy Roosevelt, et. al, on Mount Rushmore!
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