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To: NorthMountain; fidelis; JesusIsLord

I respect your opinion.

POTUS Trump was responsible for the quote and as President for all Americans his position is fair. If we were really at the point where those were the allowed reasons for abortion hundreds of thousands of lives would be saved every year.

I posted on another thread there no country in the world where abortions are completely unlawful. I was wrong. Abortion is not permitted for any reason in six countries. Nine others allow it almost exclusively to save the woman’s life, with only some offering limited exceptions for rape (Brazil, Chile,Mexico and Panama) and grave fetal
anomaly (Chile, Panama and almost half of the states of Mexico). However there are thousand of abortions in these countries yearly.
https://www.guttmacher.org/sites/default/files/factsheet/ib_aww-latin-america.pdf

God gave us free will. He allows people to sin, repent and be forgiven. Your position is not in line with the above. Just like prohibition didn’t end the consumption of alcohol making abortions illegal doesn’t end them. A policy like Trump’s codifies that abortions should be very rare. His growth and domestic policies create a more hospitable climate for women to keep their babies.


41 posted on 07/08/2024 2:06:59 PM PDT by JayGalt (DEI = Didn’t Earn It)
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To: JayGalt; fidelis; JesusIsLord
Your position is not in line with the above.

That is not a persuasive argument to me. It is a variant of the "bandwagon" argument, and "bandwagon" arguments are (almost) always offered in support of bad positions.

However there are thousand of abortions in these countries yearly.

There are thousands of murders in these United States annually. There are thousands of rapes in these United States annually. There are thousands of robberies, assaults, batteries, muggings, burglaries, breaking and enterings, scams, frauds, and breaches of contract in these United States annually. Violations of the law do not invalidate the law. Violations of the Volstead act did not directly harm anyone. Elective abortion ALWAYS harms at least one person.

His growth and domestic policies create a more hospitable climate for women to keep their babies.

No, they don't. Abortion almost never has anything to do with true economic hardship. The vast majority of abortions are "birth control with extreme prejudice".

DONALD TRUMP IS NOT GOD.

He is capable of being wrong. In this matter, he IS wrong.

On other matters, he is not wrong, and in general he is far less wrong than Mr. Biden or any other creature the democrat party is likely to nominate.

Pointing out his errors, here, is not "nitpicking". It is "holding his feet to the fire" ... something We the People need to do with ALL of our public servants.

47 posted on 07/08/2024 2:22:36 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: JayGalt; fidelis; JesusIsLord
I respect your opinion.

Separate issue: Thank you for that.

Respectful disagreement on issues is a rare commodity ... we need much more of it.

48 posted on 07/08/2024 2:25:04 PM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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