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I guess it's like gerrymandering in the US, plus there are more third and minor parties in the UK.

Well Reform got the 3rd highest vote total.

1 posted on 07/05/2024 6:47:11 AM PDT by DallasBiff
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To: DallasBiff

They likely received substantial support from rural constituencies, rather than urban. That would allow them a high support total without getting any seats, like California is situated.

Complaining about first past past the post inevitably means the author likely would have wante proportional voting, which concentrates power into the hands of the party leadership because they get to choose who gets to sit in their seat.


2 posted on 07/05/2024 6:52:41 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: DallasBiff

Lord Buckekhead got what vote?


3 posted on 07/05/2024 6:54:25 AM PDT by RockyTx
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To: DallasBiff

In the UK they have a first past the post voting system, where it’s common to have multiple people running for the same seat in Parliament, the person who wins the most votes wins and quite often gets nowhere near 50% of the vote because of how it’s divided up among all the candidates running.

This type of systems greatly favors Labor and the Torries.

In France, they have rounds of voting, in the first round, the top two vote winners run against each other at a later date everyone else gets eliminated.


4 posted on 07/05/2024 6:54:42 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: DallasBiff

4 MP seats at 14% of the vote - But Liberal Democrats at 12% get 71 seats!


5 posted on 07/05/2024 6:56:14 AM PDT by Alas Babylon! (Repeal the Patriot Act; Abolish the DHS; reform FBI top to bottom!)
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To: DallasBiff

Go to BBC Reform is in the Other category


6 posted on 07/05/2024 6:58:27 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DallasBiff

Because other than immigration the Reform platform sucks especially on economics. Liz Truss redux.


8 posted on 07/05/2024 7:03:14 AM PDT by Clemenza
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To: DallasBiff; sinsofsolarempirefan; MalPearce

Reform split the right. If this article is to be believed, in votes, Labour did worse than in the previous election, but got more seats. Sunak’s timing was good, but he hadn’t reckoned on Reform hiving off such a big chunk of the Tory vote. It hadn’t, in previous outings. His mistake? He should have found a way to accommodate Farage, headed off the Tory schism.

This is what happens when big political parties forget they are coalitions of often contradictory interests, and that at least some nominal amount of attention must be paid to the interests of key interests. For Reform, it’s also a reminder that its faction is too small to get even 5% of the seats, let alone a majority, that it would be better off with the Tories.


[Sir Keir won a commanding majority in the commons overnight, taking 412 seats to the Conservatives’ 121. Yet the election is one of the most extraordinary and disproportionate in history: Sir Keir’s Labour appears to have won fewer votes than it did in the last election while doubling its seat count. Meanwhile, Nigel Farage’s Brexit Party got a massive 14 per cent of the vote but was only rewarded with less than one per cent of the seats.]


13 posted on 07/05/2024 7:26:51 AM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: DallasBiff

It’s not rocket science and there’s no jerrymandering...

The British parliamentary system of government is rather simple. There is no vote for a party, you vote for a candidate that represents that party in the constituency where you reside. The candidate with the most votes within each constituency is declared the winner of that constituency seat..

The constituencies amount to the following:

England 543
Scotland 57
Wales 32
Northern Ireland 18

There are 650 constituencies in total and the party with 326 of more seats forms the government, and the leader of that party becomes the Prime Minister... If no party has 326 seats in parliament, you then have a minority government and coalitions between parties will be the usual result. The leader of the party with the most minority votes is typically chosen as Prime Minister.

Unlike the United States where 2 parties dominate your political elections, there are several parties in England and all of these parties suck up votes from the main contenders... The Conservatives and Labour.

At the end of the day, vote totals are of no consequence in the over all seat count... The seat count is based on individual constituencies. So while Reform may have received the 3rd highest vote total... That total is spread out over 650 constituencies throughout the UK.


15 posted on 07/05/2024 7:29:45 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: DallasBiff

No, it’s simple majority wins—like the vast majority of our races.


19 posted on 07/05/2024 7:36:55 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: DallasBiff

I remember Hillary’s surprise that the Electoral College mattered. It had only been around since the founding of the nation.


22 posted on 07/05/2024 7:55:38 AM PDT by ChessExpert (Required for informed consent: "We have a new, experimental vaccine.")
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To: DallasBiff
Many seats have a half dozen candidates.The typical winner of a seat gets something like 35% of the votes cast. Ross Perot got something like 20% of the votes cast and won approximately zero EVs.
24 posted on 07/05/2024 8:03:03 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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To: DallasBiff

They should have a runoff like in France. Labour got 33% of the vote and a big majority of seats. With runoff, they wouldn’t get near a majority. The vote was divided between Conservative, Liberal, and Reform.


26 posted on 07/05/2024 8:15:13 AM PDT by xxqqzz
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