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To: HartleyMBaldwin
Another guy and I did the Deschutes NF spotted owl survey in 1979. We didn't find many spotted owls, at least ones that would answer our call. It was still a fun summer, though I missed out on a really good fire season.

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sorry., im not sure i believe you.

i also worked on your neighbor forest, the U.S Fremont Forest, late 80’s, and i never even heard of any spotted owl surveys...

and 1979 ? did you mean 1989 ?

you and a budy ? was that a subcontract ? or where you federal employees ?

answer your call ?

what call ?.

we physically grid pattern searched every single acre with the full silviculture crew .

ya, sorry, i dont believe you for a second. . /-)

51 posted on 07/03/2024 3:27:48 PM PDT by cuz1961
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To: cuz1961

It was 1979, not 1989. Spotted owls were only starting to become a political and environmental cause. The survey was done by myself and another USFS employee, both seasonal wildlife techs, GS-3 I think. Our boss was back in the office. The method of surveying was not at all rigorous; we had a tape-recorded spotted owl call that we’d play over a portable loudspeaker, and the spotted owls were supposed to hoot back. Then we’d go back in the daytime and locate the nest.

Far from conducting a grid search of every acre, we drove every road on the forest, stopping every half mile to play the call a few times and wait for a response. We also covered whatever trails we could given the time constraints of an 8-hour shift, which meant not getting into the wilderness areas. Compared to an actual search of the entire forest, it was laughably casual; I think the higher-ups were just trying to show that they were doing something.

Now your questions have been answered, and I don’t give a rat’s ass if you believe me or not.


59 posted on 07/03/2024 3:54:31 PM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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