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Supreme Court staying away from Illinois gun ban cases as Thomas seeks 'more guidance' on protected weapons
Fox News ^ | 7/2/24 | Greg Norman

Posted on 07/02/2024 12:22:51 PM PDT by CFW

The Supreme Court announced Tuesday that it will not yet review challenges to an Illinois ban on certain types of semi-automatic weapons, attachments and magazines, effectively leaving the law in place while lower courts decide the cases.

In its final order list before going on a summer recess, the Court denied petitions to hear six different cases over the so-called "assault weapons ban," prompting a statement from Justice Clarence Thomas.

Thomas noted that the Supreme Court was presented the case after the Court of Appeals for the Seventh Circuit already rejected a request for a preliminary injunction against the law. That court held that the AR-15, among the most popular semi-automatic rifles in the country, does not enjoy Second Amendment protection.

"The Seventh Circuit’s decision illustrates why this Court must provide more guidance on which weapons the Second Amendment covers," Thomas concluded, adding that "if the Seventh Circuit ultimately allows Illinois to ban America’s most common civilian rifle, we can – and should – review that decision once the cases reach a final judgment."

"The Court must not permit "the Seventh Circuit [to] relegat[e] the Second Amendment to a second-class right," Thomas said.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government; US: Illinois
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; illinois; justicethomas; scotus
The headline (as most are) is a bit misleading. SCOTUS will eventually take up the case but only once it has completed it's trek through the courts and the case has been fully developed.

This is one reason elections are so important. The next President will probably nominate at least one new Justice. It needs to be President Trump doing the nominating. We will not survive another Sotomayor or Jackson.

1 posted on 07/02/2024 12:22:51 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CottonBall; spacejunkie2001; Bshaw; ptsal; 11th_VA; Reno89519; newfreep; frogjerk; OneVike; ...

SCOTUS ping!


2 posted on 07/02/2024 12:24:48 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

This is part of the “clean-up” conference I mentioned in yesterday’s SCOTUS thread.


3 posted on 07/02/2024 12:25:49 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

And going foward we need justices who have or do own firearms, who actively exercise their 2nd amendment rights. It needs to be asked.


4 posted on 07/02/2024 12:30:00 PM PDT by Reno89519 (I'll go out on a limb: Trump & Gabbard 2024 or Trump & Sanders 2024)
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To: CFW

Justice Thomas’ meaning is clear. ARs are CLEARLY protected by the Second Amendment, and if the 7th Circuit gets this one wrong, SCOTUS will have to issue them a clear judicial spanking and overturn them. That’s what he is saying.

This election and the subsequent SCOTUS appointments are crucial. All hands on deck, NOW.


5 posted on 07/02/2024 12:30:01 PM PDT by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: CFW

“Justice delayed is justice denied.”
William Ewart Gladstone (1809-1898, British Prime Minister)

leftist/communist/nazi/progressive/whatever states are continuing to deny citizens’ civil rights... year in and year out....with almost no judicial restraint or correction

the judicial system engenders more and more contempt for itself with each passed opportunity to restore the US Constitution and Americans’ civil rights.


6 posted on 07/02/2024 12:30:50 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: faithhopecharity

Here is an article with more information on the actual cases.

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024/07/02/scotus-takes-action-on-pending-2a-cases-n1225469

“Breaking: SCOTUS Takes Action on Pending 2A Cases”

Another article here:

https://bearingarms.com/camedwards/2024/07/02/attention-turns-to-fourth-and-ninth-circuits-after-scotus-punts-illinois-gun-magazine-ban-cases-n1225472

“Attention Turns to Fourth and Ninth Circuits After SCOTUS Punts Illinois Gun, Magazine Ban Cases”


7 posted on 07/02/2024 12:36:35 PM PDT by CFW
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To: CFW

This is utter BS for the people that live in the sht States run by tyrant liberals who ban guns. The SC SHOULD have just done away with all of it once and for all. Would have pissed off the libs but hey, they are already pissed off so f em.


8 posted on 07/02/2024 12:51:33 PM PDT by Democrat = party of treason
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To: Nailbiter

fl8


9 posted on 07/02/2024 12:53:49 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: CFW

Laws have to be written clearly. This business of “assault weapon” meaning whatever one wants it to mean is nonsense.


10 posted on 07/02/2024 1:01:06 PM PDT by gloryblaze
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To: CFW

Do SCOTUS judges recognize that there are many states whose politicians have complete and utter contempt for the 2nd Amendment and,as a result,are willing to pass laws violating 2nd Amendment rights. And do the judges accept that “justice delayed is justice denied”?


11 posted on 07/02/2024 1:01:20 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Never Trust A Man Whose Uncle Was Eaten By Cannibals)
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…Thomas concluded, adding that “if the Seventh Circuit ultimately allows Illinois to ban America’s most common civilian rifle, we can – and should – review that decision once the cases reach a final judgment.”
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There is your answer. This is not a decision based on substance, it is procedural in nature. The Supreme Court only very rarely takes up cases that have not been decided on the appeals court level. They are waiting for the Seventh Circuit, which is very anti-gun and is slow-walking these cases because they are waiting for Thomas or Alito to die and be replaced by leftists, to actually render a decision. Now that the political winds have changed direction quite a bit, it looks like Thomas and Alito will be replaced by people very much like themselves, and there is a risk that the (fat, diabetic) Latina will be replaced by a conservative. I don’t think that the Seventh Circuit is going to delay things on these cases for very much longer. Time is now working against their clearly political point of view.


12 posted on 07/02/2024 1:14:55 PM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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To: CFW

Thanks!


13 posted on 07/02/2024 1:16:19 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: CFW

“...every terrible implement of the soldier is the birth right of every American.” - P. Henry

Seems pretty cut and clear to me.


14 posted on 07/02/2024 1:17:22 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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Sorry... That’s a T. Coxe quote... mea culpa.


15 posted on 07/02/2024 1:22:47 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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To make up for my faux pas...

"As civil rulers, not having their duty to the people duly before them, may attempt to tyrannize, and as the military forces which must be occasionally raised to defend our country, might pervert their power to the injury of their fellow-citizens, the people are confirmed by the next article in their right to keep and bear their private arms." - Tenche Coxe (introduction to his discussion, and support, of the 2nd Amend) "Remarks on the First Part of the Amendments to the Federal Constitution" Philadelphia Federal Gazette, 18 June 1789, pg.2

16 posted on 07/02/2024 1:23:49 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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***That court held that the AR-15, among the most popular semi-automatic rifles in the country, does not enjoy Second Amendment protection. ****

Too late! Over 20 million in private hands! How will they collect them? 1.4 million active military personnel in 2022 vs 20 million private armed citizens.

Good enough for Miss America 1962 to shoot it is good enough for everyone to shoot!
https://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2015/06/07/blast-from-the-past-miss-america-shooting-a-cutting-edge-rifle/

And remember, at that time(1963) Thomas J. Dodd and Emanuel Celler “ONLY” wanted to register handguns. “Long guns will not be affected!”


17 posted on 07/02/2024 2:12:03 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar ( Government is not reason, it is not eloquence-it is force!--G. Washington)
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To: CFW

thankyou


18 posted on 07/02/2024 2:22:08 PM PDT by faithhopecharity (“Politicians are not born. They're excreted.” Marcus Tillius Cicero (106 to 43 BCE))
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To: CFW

Thanks for the ping!


19 posted on 07/02/2024 5:31:49 PM PDT by djstex ( (All I Have to Say... President Trump was right about everything!))
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To: CFW

There are other cases that will address this topic that were accepted earlier. Once that decision is made, the Supreme Court will have provided directions to the Circuit Courts to uphold the 2nd Amendment.


20 posted on 07/02/2024 5:46:36 PM PDT by WASCWatch ( WASC)
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