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Supreme Court says Trump has absolute immunity for official acts only
NPR ^ | July 1, 2024 | Nina Totenberg

Posted on 07/01/2024 7:52:52 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin

The U.S. Supreme Court, in a 6-3 decision along ideological lines, ruled that a former president has absolutely immunity for his core constitutional powers– and is entitled to a presumption of immunity for his official acts, but lack immunity for unofficial acts. . But at the same time, the court sent the case back to the trial judge to determine which, if any of Trump actions, were part of his official duties and thus were protected from prosecution.

That part of the court’s decision likely ensures that the case against Trump won’t be tried before the election, and then only if he is not re-elected. If he is re-elected, Trump could order the Justice Department to drop the charges against him, or he might try to pardon himself in the two pending federal cases.

Chief Justice John Roberts wrote the court’s decision, joined by his fellow conservatives. Dissenting were the three liberals, Justices Elena Kagan, Sonia Sotomayor and Ketanji Brown Jackson.

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Monday's decision to send the case back to trial Judge Tanya Chutkan all but guarantees that there will be no Trump trial on the election interference charges for months. Even before the immunity case, Judge Chutkan indicated that trial preparations would likely take three months. Now, she will also have to decide which of the charges in the Trump indictment should remain and which involve official acts that under the Supreme Court ruling are protected from prosecution.

Even after Judge Chutkan separates the constitutional wheat from the chaff, Trump could seek further delays, as immunity questions are among the very few that may be appealed prior to trial.

(Excerpt) Read more at npr.org ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: ninatotenberg; nlz; trump
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Sorry for the NPR and Totenberg source, but it was the best summary I could find for this case as it is breaking news.
1 posted on 07/01/2024 7:52:52 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin
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To: Dr. Franklin

It’s not a bad summary.


2 posted on 07/01/2024 7:55:30 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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They downplayed the ‘presumptive immunity’ part of the ruling with that headline...


3 posted on 07/01/2024 7:55:50 AM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Applies to Biden too and all past presidents?


4 posted on 07/01/2024 7:56:40 AM PDT by ActresponsiblyinVA
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To: Dr. Franklin

Maybe this thread won’t be pulled


5 posted on 07/01/2024 7:57:23 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Dr. Franklin

6 posted on 07/01/2024 7:57:48 AM PDT by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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To: Dr. Franklin

IMHO, if insuring that American elections are conducted free and fair, in accordance with the law, and protected from foreign hacking of voting machines is a duty of POTUS, then Trump must have absolute immunity from criminal prosecuation for working to stop the 2020 Big Steal. Thus, the immunity issue is dependent on Trump’s belief, even if not accepted as true, that the 2020 election was stolen.


7 posted on 07/01/2024 7:58:37 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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along ideological lines,

You can almost hear Nina crying and screaming as she types this article.

8 posted on 07/01/2024 7:58:45 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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So his conviction in New York is still there?


9 posted on 07/01/2024 7:59:31 AM PDT by Mercat
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Yes, until it is appealed on various constitutional and state law grounds. Trump’s defense in that case was completely unrelated to presidential immunity, so this case didn’t matter regarding the New York case.


10 posted on 07/01/2024 8:01:32 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." - The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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So his conviction in New York is still there?

Not an official act, and before he became POTUS, so this precedent doesn't apply to the NY case.
11 posted on 07/01/2024 8:01:39 AM PDT by Dr. Franklin ("A republic, if you can keep it." )
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

An ugly, angry dissent by the Wise Latina. Not surprising.


12 posted on 07/01/2024 8:01:54 AM PDT by Deo volente ("When we see the image of a baby in the womb, we glimpse the majesty of God's creation." Pres. Trump)
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To: Dr. Franklin

My source, Zen Master, was dead on again.

He said months ago, 6-3 immunity.


13 posted on 07/01/2024 8:02:32 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually." Jimi Hendrix)
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To: Vendome

I noticed that the first thread on this subject was pulled. Now we’ve got multiple threads on the same subject.


14 posted on 07/01/2024 8:04:17 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (Heavily-medicated for your protection)
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Sorry for the NPR and Totenberg source, but it was the best summary I could find for this case as it is breaking news.

Hey, we paid for it, we might as well use it when it is suitable.

15 posted on 07/01/2024 8:04:17 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: shadowlands1960

How much does this mean that partisan radical judges can pick and choose for themselves which ‘acts’ are “official”?


16 posted on 07/01/2024 8:04:45 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Presidents are still liable for crimes they commit in office, like treason or taking bribes, but for official acts, immune.


17 posted on 07/01/2024 8:05:37 AM PDT by teeman8r (Armageddon won't be pretty, but it's not like it's the end of the world or something )
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Maybe this thread won’t be pulled

The thread that was pulled just said Trump had absolute immunity. That is not the case. He has absolute immunity for core Constitutional duties, and presumed immunity for other official duties, but no immunity for non-official acts.

That could still bring into question immunity for 'election interference.'

18 posted on 07/01/2024 8:06:08 AM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: ComputerGuy

First one didn’t have a link.


19 posted on 07/01/2024 8:06:21 AM PDT by Tench_Coxe (The woke were surprised by the reaction to the Bud Light fiasco. May there be many more surprises)
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To: Dr. Franklin

Question to be decided is what is an official act.

Lot’s of wiggle room there.


20 posted on 07/01/2024 8:06:40 AM PDT by redgolum
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