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Report: New Evidence Reveals IDF Had Detailed Prior Knowledge of Hamas Plan to Raid Israel
Haaretz ^ | June 18, 2024 | Rachel Fink

Posted on 06/25/2024 3:45:08 PM PDT by Angelino97

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To: catnipman

Are you sure? I thought they sell flea collars for pets.


41 posted on 06/25/2024 6:24:17 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: jjotto
Re: "Ofakim is 30km (18+ miles) from the Gaza border."

According to the official website for the Nova Music Festival...

"...approximately 5 km (3.1 mi) from the Gaza–Israel barrier, near kibbutz Re’im."

https://www.novaexhibition.com/aboutthenovafestival

42 posted on 06/25/2024 6:38:35 PM PDT by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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To: logi_cal869

“permitted to occur”

Prove it.

This article and many others suggest the Israelis had lots of information about a coming attack.

Did they then CHOOSE, as in PERMITTED, the attack for some ulterior motive? Where’s the proof if that?

It seems a rather horrid mistake to ignore the many warning signs. But you impute permission.

Not demonstrated.


43 posted on 06/25/2024 6:40:50 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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To: logi_cal869

“brought to the attention of at least some senior intelligence officials but apparently ignored.”

“Ignored.”

Not “permitted”.

You stand baseless.


44 posted on 06/25/2024 6:42:03 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They were trying to re-enact that scene near the end of the “Flash” movie.


45 posted on 06/25/2024 6:45:42 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Uncle Miltie

FISH ON!!!

Well, now: I gave you a little rope, chummed the water and you came back after a curious silence, the tell being your reaction, further reinforced by your doubling down on your doubling down.

The fact is:

You are echoing Bill Ayers.
How telling that you demand the impossible.

Btw, the paradigm "loose lips sink ships" is rather apropos here...

If you don't like being compared to the left, then don't act like it.

46 posted on 06/25/2024 7:32:10 PM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Step away from the hookah.

I have no idea what you mean.


47 posted on 06/25/2024 8:11:14 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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To: logi_cal869

In addition to never being able to prove your assertion that Israel “permitted” October 7th, you seem entirely mentally unhinged.

I recommend you try strong doses of lithium to see if that helps connect you to logical thought and a more calm demeanor.

Good luck over there.


48 posted on 06/25/2024 8:17:47 PM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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To: Skwor
Gee more liberal news propoganda, Haaretz is worse than wapo, ny slimes or cnn. Get real.

Maybe this newspaper has fallen upon a flat earth.

49 posted on 06/25/2024 10:08:26 PM PDT by Right Wing Vegan (The one most called "dangerous" by minions of the pot normalization conspiracy)
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To: cowboyusa

Well yes, through the khazarians. Ukraine is very important to them as well.

It’s the same story through history and a lot of people don’t like to hear it because it’s ‘scary’. Unless they are Christian, it can shatter world views and most people can’t handle that.


50 posted on 06/26/2024 4:05:47 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Uncle Miltie

I’m not the one encumbered with denial and lashing out at others, obsessively logging in every day seeking the next trigger, the next victim.

Textbook.


51 posted on 06/26/2024 5:40:09 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: logi_cal869

Aside from never having a fact to back up an assertion, you seem to be plain nuts.

Sadly, FR has no “Ignore” button.

But I’ll try.


52 posted on 06/26/2024 5:43:14 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Israel, in order: https://freerepublic.com/tag/unclemiltieadventure/index)
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To: Uncle Miltie
you seem to be plain nuts.

Projection.

Classic.

Textbook.

We shall see if you can temper that obsession, that little leftist voice...

53 posted on 06/26/2024 5:56:04 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Bulwyf

I know it, you ate calling me a Kazarian , and not Jewish. The same Antisemtic nonsence spewed by some others here.


54 posted on 06/26/2024 6:33:00 AM PDT by cowboyusa (YESHUA IS KING AMERICA, AND HE WILL HAVE NO OTHER GODS BEFORE HIM!)
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To: cowboyusa

I’m not calling you anything. You can identify how you like. Facts are facts. The certain families who run it all are of a certain lineage.


55 posted on 06/26/2024 7:31:27 AM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: Political Junkie Too

Can’t we say the same thing about Pearl Harbor? Weren’t early reports of Japanese planes filed in someone’s in-basket and not acted upon in a timely manner or just walked from department to department as the “system” back in 1941?
-PJ

Page 3, From a book written by Tony Seidel: Cold War Spooks:

“If we had believed the intel we had in hand in 1941, there would
Have been no Pearl Harbor!”


56 posted on 06/26/2024 10:31:54 AM PDT by Grampa Dave (If voting made any difference, they wouldn't allow us to vote! Our 6th Jan PROTESTERS stood up! )
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To: Grampa Dave
That's what I thought.

IMHO, it's a slippery slope to say that "they knew" and ignored the intelligence, and are therefore culpable.

We could say the same thing about 9/11 and the "Gorelick Wall" of separation of American intelligence agencies that were prevented from sharing information in order to protect Bill Clinton's campaign finance abuses.

It's not enough to say that they had the information, especially in a world of disinformation or propaganda campaigns. People may not realize that propaganda is not just about getting people to believe the "best intentions" of policies that are actually bad for them, but it's also used to divert focus from true intelligence by confusing people about what is true and what is noise (e.g., the allied countries in WWII making Germany think that Calais was the point of invasion). Propaganda can be a game of getting people to think they're the "boy who cried wolf" by making them become hesitant to act on intelligence after getting burned by bad or faked or planted intel.

So is it possible that Israeli prior intelligence on the Hamas attacks was not believed because it was so heinous that the mind couldn't grasp the reality of it? Was it not believed because it was surrounded by noise of other rumors or planted intel? Was it not believed because it was just the latest in a stream of intel about attacks that never materialized?

It's a knee-jerk reaction by opposition factions to jump to the conclusion that Israeli intelligence knew about it and either failed to act or let it happen.

-PJ

57 posted on 06/26/2024 10:45:33 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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To: jacknhoo

Really, you still put credence in any “news” source?
My daughter came home from Portland State U with the news that Japan actually surrendered after Hiroshima, and we didn’t need to do Nagasaki. She was devastated to hear of it. As with this total BS. (Or not. We’ll never know, and it won’t matter in the end. All will be sent to their just reward.)


58 posted on 06/26/2024 12:21:55 PM PDT by my job (FDR, JFK, LBJ, LGB)
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