Posted on 06/23/2024 5:37:11 PM PDT by george76
Kids in public schools should read Free Republic every day. They would quickly obtain literacy. The phonics would come about while arguing with others about the content.
Somalis with sub 80 IQs arenβt helping the average much either
Retired public school teacher here (not union). The first thing you have to realize is that half of everyone is below average. That’s just math, no matter how much people try to deny it.
The second thing is that current students lost 2 years of education (good or bad) from the Wuhan disease.
The third thing is that standards and expectations of students and teachers has been dropping for at least the last century. Don’t believe me? Go to Gutenberg.org and download or just read McGuffey’s Sixth Eclectic Reader and see what was expected of 6th-graders back at the turn of the 20th century. Compare it to what 6th-graders are reading now.
Something went wrong after the Founders.ππ
The Northwest Ordinance of 1787: “Religion, morality, and knowledge, being necessary to good government and the happiness of mankind, schools and the means of education shall forever be encouraged” π¨βππ©βππ«ποΈ
I don’t remember what reading-education method was used in the public schools when my siblings and I were young, because all six of us had learned to read before the start of first grade. My mother taught us, using phonics.
I taught mine, by reading to them, with no formal program at all. They were all reading well by age 4. Primary texts were the Dr. Seuss books.
Well, reading to us played a large part too, of course. The older kids would also read to the younger ones, some, if the younger ones pestered them enough.
You’re being generous. Average is 67.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country
Of course, we could be getting the brighter ones.
bttt
I’m trying to learn Russian.
Learning to read a language in a different alphabet is difficult.
English is sourced from many different languages. One begins with phonics and works up to whole language.
In Spanish, pronunciation is fixed by certain simple rules.
In Russian, the letter that looks like ‘o’ has various pronunciations depending on if the syllable it is in is accented and where it is in the word. The letter that looks like ‘e’ has lots of pronunciation rules.
The pronunciation guide in Romanov’s dictionary is over six pages long.
Much has been lost in recent times.
Here is a reading of a transcript by Wyatt Earp on gun fighting in the late 1800s
You can tell he probably spent a bit of time reading McGuffey in school
Wyatt Earp on gun fighting.
A man in New York City was recently declared a felon for using the two words “legal expenses” when he paid a lawyer.
l
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p
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There’s more to reading than sounding out letters.
Why do you folks complain? 100% school choice for starters-cold turkey. Problem solved. The phone company broke up gradually over the years starting 1984. Same with the airlines in ‘78.
A total breakup of public schools in June 2025 would be awesome. Have someone tell all the teachers “You’re fired!” Guess who?
Iβm trying to learn Russian.
Once you learn the alphabet, Russian is reasonably phonetic. But the grammar is a killer. And every Russian name has three or four ‘nicknames’ which might or might not bear any resemblance to the actual name. That’s what makes Russian novels so difficult, even in translation.
Good luck.
Ditto. I remember being bored in Reading in 1st grade because I already knew how to read.
Can these <90 IQ third worlders ever learn to read? Even in their own language?
I remember finishing off the second-grade reader on the first day of school and thinking, “OK, now what?”
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