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Russia says U.S. is responsible for deadly Ukrainian attack on Crimea
Reuters ^ | June 23rd, 2024 | Guy Faulconbridge and Filipp Lebedev

Posted on 06/23/2024 10:32:25 AM PDT by shadowlands1960

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To: shadowlands1960

That is a silly try at a comeback, you should really pay some attention to those nations and why they are making these historical changes and spending so much on defense, they know Russia and can see what Putin is doing.


161 posted on 06/23/2024 3:49:18 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Actually no.. I don’t want to debate such stupidity... if you want to believe Russia is going to launch Northern War part II, as a sequel to the early 18 century war (over 300 years ago!).. have at it. You believe in a phantom Russia, not the real one. Sweden hasn’t a thing to fear from Russia and they damn well know it.


162 posted on 06/23/2024 3:55:43 PM PDT by shadowlands1960 (We live in a world of intolerance masked as tolerance. RUSH LIMBAUGH)
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To: shadowlands1960

US specialist to AFU soldier: “Push this button.”


163 posted on 06/23/2024 3:58:07 PM PDT by A strike (no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
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To: House Atreides

I doubt I am underestimating it.

I have shown, often, how this affects medical and education spending also.

But none of you are hanging bureaucrats from lamp posts. All you do is whine about Ukraine.


164 posted on 06/23/2024 4:01:10 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

How does it cut both ways? Was Ukraine trying to grab Russian land and resources?


165 posted on 06/23/2024 4:08:00 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: shadowlands1960

You should contact those nations and tell them how they don’t know anything about Russia and any threat it might pose, and to contact you so that you can set them straight.


166 posted on 06/23/2024 4:11:58 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: FreedomNotSafety

Russia has lots of natural resources that would be so nice for the CIA to take over.

How long would the proxy war have lasted without the $250,000,000,000 gifted them by the US taxpayer, most of which has disappeared into the ether without a trace?

Follow the money you said.

Yet you refuse to take your own advice.


167 posted on 06/23/2024 4:14:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Sarcazmo
Yeah. If I were you I’d go up to those old gun emplacements on the North side of the bridge where the Terminator went to fight that ... uh... AI robot.

I used to play with friends around those gun emplacements. Also a lot of missile launchers along the SF peninsula (missiles removed by the 1960s). Now they're treated like museum pieces for the GGNRA fed park system, full of tourists and graffiti. When I was a kid in the 1950s, the teachers told us that if there was a nuclear attack and air raid sirens warned us, to dive under the school desks away from the windows. Our school was 1 mile from the center of SF target zero. I laugh about it now. There is no safe place with multiple MIRVs pointed our way. Roadcat is small pawn in game of life.

168 posted on 06/23/2024 4:57:16 PM PDT by roadcat ( )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Again, what is that Ukraineis trying to steal from Russia? Vlad the Rus. Modern day Viking. Follow the money. If Ukraine wasn’t resource rich Vlad would not be interested.

Ukraine being gifted money by the US is far and away differential invading Russia and plundering the country for its resources.


169 posted on 06/23/2024 5:10:11 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: buwaya

“… But none of you are hanging bureaucrats from lamp posts. All you do is whine about Ukraine.”
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Wow! IMHO, Ukraine is BY FAR the biggest parasite currently draining the lifeblood of America.


170 posted on 06/23/2024 5:16:16 PM PDT by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA-PRO-M)
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To: FreedomNotSafety
Again, what is that Ukraineis trying to steal from Russia?

That's not what I said. You are so sleazy you're not worth bothering with.

171 posted on 06/23/2024 5:20:44 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: roadcat

” Roadcat is small pawn in game of life.”

XD XD

Sarcazmo too.


172 posted on 06/23/2024 5:21:45 PM PDT by Sarcazmo (I live by the Golden Rule. As applied by others; I'm not selfish.)
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To: House Atreides

You’re kidding, right?

You have to be. Nobody could be so innumerate.

US budget - https://www.cbo.gov/publication/59727 - $6.1 Trillion.

Add, states, including mandatory spending (per US law, or regulation, or federal courts) - thats another 2.7 Trillion - of which Cato estimated, many yesrs ago, at least $500 Billion are unfunded federal mandates - https://www.kff.org/other/state-indicator/total-state-spending/

Add, unfunded mandates to private parties, as required by law, regulation or federal courts - This has to run a couple of $Trillion at least, as overall economic overhead. Much of this spending is required compliance costs paid to various private parties with government connections - I have been in this sort of mess and seen this firsthand.

Now, with all these $Trillions sloshing around, how on earth is @$60 Billion a year “the biggest parasite”?


173 posted on 06/23/2024 5:53:36 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Its less than $250B (from the US). The total authorized is $175Billion since 2022.

2022 $54.5B

2023 $60.7B

2024 $61.3B - but just beginning to be spent.

The US aid is mostly military equipment which is costed and itemized.


174 posted on 06/23/2024 6:04:40 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ok, then what is anyone else, including whatever fantasy villains you would care to name, wanting to steal from Russia?


175 posted on 06/23/2024 6:07:14 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

It’s a question, answer it or not, but was not quoting you.


176 posted on 06/23/2024 7:29:44 PM PDT by FreedomNotSafety
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To: roadcat

“You folks in flyover country will have to contend with the fallout.”

All the radioactive poop from the sidewalks raining down. Disgusting.


177 posted on 06/23/2024 7:35:18 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: shadowlands1960

“I wonder what the Global Hawk can do there that we can’t get from satellites?”

Loiter, and closer is better.


178 posted on 06/23/2024 7:47:17 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2024... RETURN OF THE JEDI. )
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To: FreedomNotSafety

I don’t play the non-sequitur game.

Respond to what I actually said, or don’t.


179 posted on 06/23/2024 7:56:07 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████ ████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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To: Flavious_Maximus

We are going to see US drones run out of the Black Sea. Hitting Russia airbases using US intelligence and targeting data has consequences. Tit for tat. One thing for sue is that whatever Russia does, they have back up contingencies and thought it thru.

All the talk of Ukraine getting permission to attack anywhere in Russia brought reminders that NATO was already told that anywhere in NATO might be fair game too for being targeted proxy to the war effort.

The US stages huge amounts of equipment in large depots in Poland for transfer into Ukraine - those staging areas with equipment might be a target; same in Romania. Hit my airbase and I hit yours.

I cannot imagine why the globalists, other than Putin shutting down their illegal immigration and homosexual agenda, would want to destroy Russia and actually start a hot war.

If I had to guess the worst case scenario... NATO threatens Putin with Nukes in Ukraine... or Putin hits all of NATO inside Ukraine. The FAB3000, 5000, 9000s are big enough to level an apartment complex in pairs or the larger ones. The 3000s are a bit more than 1/10 the Hiroshima bomb without the radiation. Imagine a pair of these hitting a town... of a half dozen in a day... anyone left alive would be running or throwing down their weapons.

One thing is for sure. Biden doesn’t control the mythical nuclear button. We know that old man isn’t president for real, but it is his war, and Obamas.


180 posted on 06/23/2024 8:04:55 PM PDT by Jumper
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