Posted on 06/17/2024 6:13:49 AM PDT by delta7
Yawn. Here come the REMFs again.
Stop lying...the fascist post-coup regime in Kiev used its military against the dissident civilian population in Eastern Ukraine. "Russian surrogate forces" = Ukrainian citizen militias.
So says the Kremlin but even the casualty reports from the two so-called Donbas republics do not support this claim.
Bttt.
5.56mm
The great rule of conduct for us in regard to foreign nations is in extending our commercial relations, to have with them as little political connection as possible... Here let us stop. Europe has a set of primary interests which to us have none; or a very remote relation. Hence she must be engaged in frequent controversies, the causes of which are essentially foreign to our concerns. Hence, therefore, it must be unwise in us to implicate ourselves by artificial ties in the ordinary vicissitudes of her politics, or the ordinary combinations and collisions of her friendships or enmities... Why, by interweaving our destiny with that of any part of Europe, entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of European ambition, rivalship, interest, humor or caprice?....
- George Washington, Farewell Address
Wise words from our First President!
My grandmother was a czarist Russian and so am I. The Communists ruined Russia and I have no sympathy for them. They are stupid, evil, crass, and clodlike. Russia needs to understand that it is not and will never be a world power. The realization that it will never be a world power alone will do Russia a lot of good.
So Putin is the peaceful man now?
And of course the US is about as peaceful as Mother Theresa!
There are no good guys these days.
Only a fool would agree to such terms.
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Only a fool would risk world war for the most corrupted nation on the planet, that has zero strategic value to the US.
But he’s willing to leave some change in the till!
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The only change he leaves are the mountains of Russian troops bodies and his ego.
There are always to sides to the coin. The backstory of this war is not generally known but should be in judging the rights and wrongs. The Kennedy Beacon had an article on FR a while back which puts Putin in a better light than most of the folks on FR have him.
https://thekennedybeacon.substack.com/p/the-real-history-of-the-war-in-ukraine
Armstrong has always been full of crap.
Armstrong has always been full of crap.
Putin’s calls for a ceasefire are for the same reason Hamas wants one. Whilst he is bleeding Ukraine he also bleeding Russia. He wants breathing room to rebuild his military and a bleeding economy.
Putin’s calls for a ceasefire are for the same reason Hamas wants one. Whilst he is bleeding Ukraine he also bleeding Russia. He wants breathing room to rebuild his military and a bleeding economy.
Ukrainian who speak Russian
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Well, all Irish speak English.
Let GB annex Ireland, now!
Only people that see things your way should post here!
Only your view is conservative.
Conservative today: globalist, interventionist, offensive, expeditionary, economically motivated. I'm sure that view is 100% in step with how we defined it in 1980./sarc
This caused a war and you cannot get around that: https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukrainian-president-zelenskiy-holding-talks-with-biden-adviser-says-2021-12-09/
That was our call.
There was no imminent need for this.
To this day, you nor anyone else can articulate a national security threat that required this NATO East expansion and our involvement in Ukraine without resorting to make belief boogieman stories and Cold War era cliche's.
Tell me, how has this war in Ukraine made me, as an American more wealthy, free or safe?
This war in the Ukraine is a disaster even WORSE than our withdraw from Afghanistan. This conflict has caused a reshuffling of the world order, with China, Iran, and North Korea becoming closer tied on defense issues, a massive expansion of BRICS, the begin of what appears as a divestment from the US dollar as a reserve currency, and once again being in a world full of proxy wars where Russian and American kids die in some place that their parents can't find on a political map. And this will not simply “turn off” when this conflict ends. What (((we))) set in motion will have lasting global consequences.
The difference being that with Ukraine everyone will point the finger at he who shot the first shot, i.e. Russia. But of course things aren't so simple unless we want to pretend to be stupid because that feels better. There was (((A LOT))) of things that happened in the lead up to this war, but NATO East expansion was the tipping point. Other factors: Us basically taking over Ukraine (subverting it), our withdraw from the ballistic missile treaty (impacts situation greatly), violations of Minsk, constant attempts at violating Montreux, us stomping all over Russia's sphere of influence in Libya, Iraq, Syria and Venezuela.
It's not that Russia is a nice guy. You miss the point.
In the Cold War, it was very clear, we were the good guy, they were the bad guy. That's all gone today.
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