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Ukraine’s draft woes leave the West facing pressure to make up for the troop shortfall
The Conversation via Yahoo ^ | June 14th, 2024 | Nicolai N. Petro, University of Rhode Island

Posted on 06/14/2024 2:08:14 PM PDT by Mariner

Ukraine’s current military recruitment campaign is not going according to plan.

Announced on April 16, 2024, the drive was aimed at enlisting hundreds of thousands of young Ukrainian men to help push back against a Russian invasion that has gained momentum in recent months.

But the effort has been met with public skepticism, draft dodging and opposition to unpopular, heavy-handed attempts to root out those not heeding the call to sign up. It has left Ukraine struggling to fill the positions officials say are needed to beat back the invading army.

Rather than solving Ukraine’s problems, the draft effort is multiplying them. And that puts pressure on the West’s current strategy to support Ukraine primarily through military aid. Moreover, I believe it risks the prospect of troops from NATO countries eventually being pulled into direct military confrontation with Russia.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Ukraine
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To: Mariner

Set up the draft in our country only in solid blue states and send them to help. SOLID SOLDJIERS there!


21 posted on 06/14/2024 3:20:31 PM PDT by Mark (DONATE ONCE every 3 months-is that a big deal?)
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To: desertsolitaire

Realistically, there is no option that sees Ukraine win without the boots on the ground from the US and other NATO countries. NONE!

Anyone that says different is a liar, or deluded.

The NEocons are determined to get us into this war full force and left to them, it will happen, if not stopped cold.


22 posted on 06/14/2024 3:22:02 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Ukraine was never going to win. Anyone with a brain could see it, short of having NATO and US troops on the ground.

All that money was wasted as we funded the slaughter of Ukrainians into a unwinnable war.

Now, I am sure, that the word will go out that we must sends troops or all is lost in Ukraine. All is already lost.


23 posted on 06/14/2024 3:25:11 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: Mariner

No. Just NO.


24 posted on 06/14/2024 3:56:15 PM PDT by Flaming Conservative ((Pray without ceasing))
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To: Uncle Miltie; All

This guy has good contacts in DOD and Ukraine Armed Forces.

He says only 20% of the original Ukrainian army is still left.

Also says Russians are back to firing 60,000 shells per day on some days.

at the prompt:

https://youtu.be/2afawGi6XBY?t=1424


25 posted on 06/14/2024 4:02:41 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright

My mistake. It was Russia firing 80,000 rounds in one day.

https://youtu.be/2afawGi6XBY?t=1808


26 posted on 06/14/2024 4:08:09 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Reverend Wright; All

My mistake. It was Russia firing 80,000 rounds in one day.

https://youtu.be/2afawGi6XBY?t=1808


27 posted on 06/14/2024 4:08:36 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Uncle Miltie

with ukrainian men 0f military age leaving en- mass thy expect the west to sacrifice


28 posted on 06/14/2024 4:17:16 PM PDT by ar10
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To: Mariner

We need to get out of NATO and let the nations that remain know that all arms sales to them will be cash only. Then they can either strengthen themselves and survive or learn Russian. A binary choice for the Euro-grifters.


29 posted on 06/14/2024 4:17:49 PM PDT by chickenlips (Neuter your politicians)
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To: Uncle Miltie

Need more troops?
No problema!
Enlist the 50 or so million US illegals.
Give them Ukraine citizenship as a reward.
Problem solved!
Got to Vax & Boost them prior to sending them to Ukraine.
Safe and effective...if you can’t believe Biden, who can you believe?


30 posted on 06/14/2024 5:06:03 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Resisting criminals is a punishable offense )
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To: OldArmy52

Citizenship and a wife, complete with her man-less home...the US illegals will love it (and if they don’t, they get to go save Ukraine anyway).


31 posted on 06/14/2024 5:10:02 PM PDT by OldArmy52 (Resisting criminals is a punishable offense )
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To: usurper

Nato must unleash the strength of diversity to win!


32 posted on 06/14/2024 5:44:53 PM PDT by TimSkalaBim
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To: Mariner

Third option - import mercenaries. Recruit in 4th world hell holes. Maybe the Azovs could recruit Muslim militants that would find common ground on an issue. If the money was right, they could fill the ranks. And it wouldn’t take much to be right in some parts of the world.


33 posted on 06/14/2024 6:45:03 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: packrat35
, short of having NATO and US troops on the ground.

I wouldn't bet on the US Army or NATO at this point.

34 posted on 06/14/2024 6:48:55 PM PDT by PAR35
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To: Mariner

Why would it give US pressure to make up for some country thousands of miles away, under no legal binding treaty with the US? That’s ludicrous, anyone told they will be drafted for that war and go to a country that few know the language, has a history of hating the US when it was openly communist and still has commie leanings. If told they must go fight for the ukes should jut laugh in whoevers face it is. There is no NATO deal that if a nato country goes and joins attacks that other nato countries must join in. NATO was a defense treaty, attacking is the opposite of defense. With this stupidity inbound, the US needs to pull out of NATO and the UN, yep need to become isolationist again because these supposed ‘on our side’ are just after the usual, US money and US bodies to throw into their worthless battles to die instead of their men. Who here cares if the ukes are russian (like they used to be) or different? The russkies are just going to play dominoes with the other old soviet states. So what? Was that way for decades, not getting pulled into another ‘they will keep taking more’ sob story like the one they used in the Vietnam war is more important. I don’t think the gen-Z and newbie alphas will go for it, their parents sure won’t.


35 posted on 06/14/2024 7:17:07 PM PDT by redcatcherb412
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To: Mariner

[1. NATO/US troops on the ground in direct conflict with Russia.]

As I’ve been predicting. No later than October, 2024 because Potato Joe Biden needs the distraction.


36 posted on 06/15/2024 2:29:52 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: packrat35

[Ukraine was never going to win. Anyone with a brain could see it, short of having NATO and US troops on the ground.]

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37 posted on 06/15/2024 2:49:40 AM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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