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George H.W. Bush at 100: The last WASP president
The Hill ^
| 06/12/2024
| ELIOT WILSON
Posted on 06/12/2024 7:25:57 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
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To: dfwgator
This is in 1983 VP GhwB and guvnah billy cokenose clinton.
Wallace is in a wheelchair, paralyzed by Artie Bremer, and Lurleen had died in office in 1968, before Wallace’s run in 1972.
Bill is drinking a Diet Pepsi (in the South!!) and appears to have a woodie under his left arm holding the can, with a goofy grin. Priapus incarnate. And now, he’s got tertiary neurosyphilis acc. to colleagues who know. Got the gait and the long vacant eye stare, he also wanders (recently seen).
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:18:10 AM PDT
by
John S Mosby
(Sic Semper Tyrannis)
To: ChicagoConservative27
[Simpson]
I could see it. Simpson was quick on his feet and no one doubted his gravitas. When Quayle responded to media questions, you could almost visualize the gears clacking away. Not a good look.
It’s a bit unfair, but Quayle was simultaneously too youthful and good-looking, but lacked the kind of vocal timbre that Trump has either cultivated or comes naturally, that projects gravitas. It’s shallow, but voters are shallow - if he had Trump’s voice, Quayle might have caught fire. The way he came off, Quayle was a drag on Bush’s ticket.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:29:08 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: Zhang Fei
Sorry to ramble on and on but I always wondered what a second Bush term would have looked like .If he never said read my lips I think he would have won.
To: ChicagoConservative27
Bush looking at his watch during the debate, was another big moment in that campaign. He mailed it in.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:36:16 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: ChicagoConservative27
[Sorry to ramble on and on but I always wondered what a second Bush term would have looked like .If he never said read my lips I think he would have won.]
I agree the odds would have been better, but the coup de grace was delivered by the midget from Texas.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:40:37 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: Zhang Fei
To: ChicagoConservative27
I wouldn’t be so sure of that.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:42:32 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
(Endut! Hoch Hech!)
To: ChicagoConservative27
Never liked the term “WASP.” Here in North Jersey many of not most of the folks whose ancestors go back to Colonial times are of Dutch or even Palantine German ancestry. Also, Clinton and GWB are of colonial era English ancestry (as was Obama on his mother’s side).
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:42:35 AM PDT
by
Clemenza
To: dfwgator
[Bush looking at his watch during the debate, was another big moment in that campaign. He mailed it in.]
Dubya learned from Bush pere - every public gesture, facial expression and word has to be carefully guarded, lest it be taken out of context and used as a weapon by the other side. That’s allegedly the source of “fool me twice, won’t get fooled again”. “Shame on me” might have been used as a sound bite against him.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:46:53 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: ChicagoConservative27
[No Perot and Bush wins]
Indeed.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:49:03 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: Zhang Fei
But we got clinton and the rest is history
To: ChicagoConservative27
[But we got clinton and the rest is history]
Many moons ago, LP Hartley wrote - the past is a foreign country - they do things differently there. In that sense, we have sojourned through several foreign countries since, without having needed a valid passport to make the journey.
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posted on
06/12/2024 9:58:19 AM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: Zhang Fei
To: John S Mosby
Oh for gods sake. You couldn’t be more wrong.
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posted on
06/12/2024 10:09:01 AM PDT
by
napscoordinator
(DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
To: Zhang Fei
I read once that the reason Bush looked at his watch was that the moderators were letting Clinton talk longer than he was supposed to.
To: MayflowerMadam
There have been only three Presidents who were not of Northwestern European origin and from a Protestant family: Kennedy, Obama, and Biden. And in the cases of Obama and Biden, they have Protestants of British colonial descent in their family trees.
To: Verginius Rufus
[I’m\ read once that the reason Bush looked at his watch was that the moderators were letting Clinton talk longer than he was supposed to.]
I seem to recall the same, but it was an awkward moment in a campaign full of them.
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posted on
06/12/2024 12:07:41 PM PDT
by
Zhang Fei
(My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
To: John S Mosby
Trump's mother was Scots.
That would make him White (for a certain value of "White") and Protestant but not Anglo-Saxon.
Most people labeled as WASPs are not.
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posted on
06/12/2024 12:13:44 PM PDT
by
Harmless Teddy Bear
( Roses are red, Violets are blue, I love being on the government watch list, along with all of you.)
To: nwrep; Dr. Sivana
Why is he the last WASP POTUS? Why aren’t Clinton or Chimpy not WASPs? Why isn’t Trump considered a WASP? What kind of nonsense is that?Freeper Dr. Sivana posted this on another thread recently:
Here is a definition from Perplexity ai:Some key points about WASPs:
The term emerged in the 1960s to describe the elite upper class of American society that had roots tracing back to the original English Protestant settlers of the 17th century.
WASPs historically held a position of power, wealth, and influence in American society, politics, academia, and culture for several centuries.
The WASP establishment was seen as promoting its own cultural values and traditions derived from Northern European Protestant backgrounds.
Over time, the WASP elite’s influence has declined as American society became more diverse and meritocratic, though remnants of the old establishment persist in certain institutions.
The term can have negative connotations of exclusivity, snobbery, and discrimination against non-WASPs, though it was originally a sociological descriptor.
The term's reference to northerners would exclude Clinton. Many of the southern whites trace their lineage to the 1800s when there was a large migration from Scotland. Most Scots were Gaels or Celts, not Anglo-Saxons.
I suppose Trump could be ethnically be called a WASP from his German side, but his forebearers migrated much later -- his Trump grandfather from Germany and his mother from Scotland.
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posted on
06/12/2024 12:28:41 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
To: Zhang Fei
Quayle...lacked the kind of vocal timbre that Trump has either cultivated or comes naturally, that projects gravitas. It’s shallow, but voters are shallowThe voice issue certainly didn't help Sarah Palin. She badly needed a vocal coach.
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posted on
06/12/2024 12:38:38 PM PDT
by
Albion Wilde
(Either ‘the Deep State destroys America, or we destroy the Deep State.’ --Donald Trump)
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