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U.S. Navy’s Cruiser Countdown The U.S. Navy’s cruisers will all be gone before 2027 is over. Here’s the order in which they’ll go.
https://www.navalnews.com/cavasships/2024/06/u-s-navys-cruiser-countdown/ ^ | 6/9/24 | Chis Cavas

Posted on 06/09/2024 8:20:05 PM PDT by hardspunned

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“The cruisers are being decommissioned approximately at the end of their planned 35-year service lives. They are being replaced in the air warfare commander role by new Flight III Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, only one of which currently is in service.“

Why am I not surprised about this?

“Although Congress had directed otherwise, the U.S. Navy in early 2024 ordered all further work on the ships to stop and they were placed on the decommissioning list.”

Congress, like the President, has no power when it comes to MIC profits.

1 posted on 06/09/2024 8:20:05 PM PDT by hardspunned
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To: hardspunned

“They are being replaced in the air warfare commander role by new Flight III Arleigh Burke-class destroyers, only one of which currently is in service.“

I hope each is replaced by the Flight III Arleigh Burkes as they go out of service.


2 posted on 06/09/2024 8:32:37 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Morgie56; rlmorel

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3 posted on 06/09/2024 8:37:39 PM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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Vicksburg and Cowpens had been two of the seven cruisers inducted in the mid-20-teens into the Navy’s Cruiser Modernization Program, and the cost of their protracted, never-finished modernizations has approached nearly one billion dollars.

Can anyone, anywhere, do anything, on time, on budget and right? Anymore?

4 posted on 06/09/2024 8:39:52 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (The Government that got us in this mess is not the Government that can get us out of it.)
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To: laplata

The Cruisers are on the same hull as the Destroyers I think. Same basic ship just configured differently


5 posted on 06/09/2024 8:46:24 PM PDT by Fai Mao (The US government is run by pedophiles )
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To: hardspunned

Take that She (and Putin)!!!!

We don’t need no Navy ships because WE ARE AMERICA and therefore WE ARE INVINCIBLE!

As it is, China’s hypersonics will likely ‘retire’ our navy vessels ever faster than the brass intends, given the boneheads in the White House.


6 posted on 06/09/2024 8:50:21 PM PDT by BobL
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To: Fai Mao

Thanks.

But are they being replaced at the same rate they leave service?


7 posted on 06/09/2024 8:50:43 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: Fai Mao
Maybe China could produce a few for us?


8 posted on 06/09/2024 8:52:39 PM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: hardspunned

Reality intrudes. In this modern technological era, naval surface combatants, land armored vehicles and helicopters over the battlefield are obsolete coffins. If there is to be war, it will have to be rethought. Ground shoulders will have to be shielded by anti detection devices or put another way high tech gilley suits.


9 posted on 06/09/2024 9:12:45 PM PDT by allendale
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To: laplata
I hope each is replaced by the Flight III Arleigh Burkes as they go out of service.

They will be. We have commissioned the first and 7 more are under construction. And the Flight III Burkes are significantly more capable than Ticos.

10 posted on 06/09/2024 9:20:02 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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11 posted on 06/09/2024 9:21:59 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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To: ETCM

Ah


12 posted on 06/09/2024 9:23:13 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the Days of Lot; They did Eat, They Drank, They Bought, They Sold ......)
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The Cruisers are on the same hull as the Destroyers I think. Same basic ship just configured differently

The Tico Cruisers were built on the 1970's Spruance Class Destroyer hull design. The Arleigh Burke is a completely different hull. The Ticonderoga were always a Destroyer, at 9600 tons displacement. The FLT III Burkes are 9700 tons displacement. The sensor suite on the FLT III is far superior to the cruisers they are replacing.

13 posted on 06/09/2024 9:26:13 PM PDT by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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The Ticonderoga class cruisers are based on the older Spruance class destroyer design, with the similar sized Burke Flight III destroyers being newer and more capable. Most notably, due to being built originally to accommodate an older model of radar, the Ticonderoga class cruisers tend to be a bit top heavy and less seaworthy than the Burke Flight III destroyers.
14 posted on 06/09/2024 9:41:54 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: BobL

At this point North Korea has hypersonic technology that the US does not.

https://apnews.com/article/north-korea-kim-jong-un-hypersonic-intermediaterange-missile-768704fe65bdfbcc7311fec2ce34bd92

Meanwhile, the USA has been working on hypersonic since the late 1990s, but 25 years later there is still no in-service weapons and nothig coming in the immediate future.

https://www.defensenews.com/opinion/2024/01/19/the-us-is-failing-to-quickly-field-hypersonic-missile-defense/


15 posted on 06/09/2024 9:52:23 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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Crap, even worse than I though. As they DO NOT say in the US Brass (because it’s true): “Quantity has a quality of its own.”. Sure would be nice if our military was capable of KEEPING SHIPS OPERATING (along with other systems), even while commissioning new ones.


16 posted on 06/09/2024 9:58:56 PM PDT by BobL
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To: ETCM

Thank you for that info.

Your use of “Tico” indicates that you were stationed on one of them but I might be wrong.


17 posted on 06/09/2024 10:00:18 PM PDT by laplata (They want each crisis to take the greatest toll possible.)
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To: BobL

I’ve been listening to these guys.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0F1IE5_2Y0w

This Malcolm Kyeyune does a lot of original reporting on the actual state of the US military, readiness and the capabilities of the industrial base.

The basic summary is: the more details you know about it, the worse it gets.


18 posted on 06/09/2024 10:06:52 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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If construction is delayed, do they still go ahead with scrapping the existing ships?

https://www.defensenews.com/naval/2024/04/02/us-navy-ship-programs-face-years-long-delays-amid-labor-supply-woes/


19 posted on 06/09/2024 10:12:59 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Fai Mao

“The Cruisers are on the same hull as the Destroyers I think. Same basic ship just configured differently”

That sounds about what I gathered.

A lot of life out of that hull.

Hope the Burkes are not as top heavy as the Tico class. Still remember going out overnight on one for some testing and the insane rolling once they slowed down after dark.

That and the 5mB hard drive as big as a small filing cabinet.


20 posted on 06/09/2024 10:14:47 PM PDT by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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