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To: wildcard_redneck

Finland and Sweden would never have joined NATO if not for Putins invasion. So is Putin part of this vast cabal to increase the size of Nato?

The eastward expansion was a voluntary decision by these former Warsaw pact who had lived in the Russian mir and unlike many, understood them

As to the “coup”, if I accept your premise (which I don’t), the coups arranged by Soviets and now Russian kgb and fsb were and are fine?

All nations meddle, Russia is no different and from my perspective very active across the globe. A few million dollars or in the case of the Ruble, a few trillion, it is a very cost effective way to advance your cause. Especially in today’s world. Blast a story from one of your proxies, let it spread, true or false it is now out there. With bloggers and online “ journalists and news outlets” it is cheap and effective.

Just a historical perspective to your “westward “ march. These kind of result would have seen Stalin execute every general and his staff involved in these “victories “


47 posted on 06/08/2024 4:31:11 AM PDT by blitz128
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To: blitz128

The U.S. and NATO made Russia a promise not to expand and the did it anyway. The could in 2014 wasn’t voluntary as anyone who went through the 2020 election knows from experience.

Keep making excuses for your new leftist masters and their war of distraction and profit.


62 posted on 06/08/2024 5:37:31 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (He who sacrifices freedom for security deserves neither.)
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To: blitz128

So yesterday, Saudi ArBia has pretty much told the US they won’t need petrol dollars, joining China with the use of a gold backed currency.

Because of US sanctions and theft of Russian financial assets, the world is breaking with the US led world disorder.

SA will probably not host a Ukrainian peace talks, nor get F35s. All because of NATO.


68 posted on 06/08/2024 6:22:31 AM PDT by Jumper
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To: blitz128

Finland and Sweden would never have joined NATO….
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…If the US had not meddled in the affair. You are very naive to think the US didn’t influence ( force)their admission to NATO. Question? You probably think the West didn’t blow up the Nordstream pipeline either. You would do well to pull up senile Joe’s comment prior to it being blown up.


94 posted on 06/09/2024 12:15:51 PM PDT by delta7
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