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Could the Alvin Bragg case already be on the SCOTUS docket?
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Posted on 06/02/2024 11:09:20 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Speculation is running rampant about the need for a “hook” to get the Supremes to consider cert on the bogus Bragg conviction. Recall that the alleged “falsified” business records all supposedly occurred in 2017.

Last time I checked, Trump was president at the time. I’m not a lawyer, but if SCOTUS reaffirms broad presidential immunity (as I believe they will, definitely after the clown show in New York) on the basis of separation of powers, this will upend the J6 case, almost all of the documents case and the Fulton RICO case in its entirety. At a minimum, a broad immunity ruling could impact the Bragg case in interesting ways.


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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

Bragg is an election denier.


81 posted on 06/02/2024 12:53:51 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

A ruling in the presidential immunity case before the Supreme Court could address not just the immediate controversy but also require expedited consideration and allow direct filings in the high court of appeals from criminal and civil cases involving current presidents and candidates for president. This would be a signal of the Court’s readiness to review the Trump case on an immediate basis.


82 posted on 06/02/2024 12:54:09 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Political Junkie Too

You weren’t sidetracking at all — great feedback. Thanks.


83 posted on 06/02/2024 12:56:30 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Rastus

Good point.

Was he on the Epstein flight manifesto?


84 posted on 06/02/2024 12:57:10 PM PDT by Eccl 10:2 (Prov 3:5 --- "Trust in the Lord with all your heart, and lean not on your own understanding")
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To: TexasGator

Sotomayor over NY

Circuit Assignments

It is ordered that the following allotment be made of The Chief Justice and the Associate Justices of this Court among the circuits, pursuant to Title 28, United States Code, Section 42 and that such allotment be entered of record, effective September 28, 2022.

For the District of Columbia Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice
For the First Circuit - Ketanji Brown Jackson, Associate Justice
(Maine, Massachusetts, New Hampshire, Puerto Rico, Rhode Island)
For the Second Circuit - Sonia Sotomayor, Associate Justice (Connecticut, New York, Vermont)
For the Third Circuit - Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice (Delaware, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Virgin Islands)
For the Fourth Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice (Maryland, North Carolina, South Carolina, West Virginia, Virginia)
For the Fifth Circuit - Samuel A. Alito, Jr., Associate Justice (Louisiana, Mississippi, Texas)
For the Sixth Circuit - Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice (Kentucky, Michigan, Ohio, Tennessee)
For the Seventh Circuit - Amy Coney Barrett, Associate Justice (Illinois, Indiana, Wisconsin)
For the Eighth Circuit - Brett M. Kavanaugh, Associate Justice (Arkansas, Iowa, Minnesota, Missouri, Nebraska, North Dakota, South Dakota)
For the Ninth Circuit - Elena Kagan, Associate Justice (Alaska, Arizona, California, Guam, Hawaii, Idaho, Oregon, Montana, Nevada, Northern Mariana Islands, Washington)
For the Tenth Circuit - Neil M. Gorsuch, Associate Justice (Colorado, Kansas, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Utah, Wyoming)
For the Eleventh Circuit - Clarence Thomas, Associate Justice (Alabama, Florida, Georgia)
For the Federal Circuit - John G. Roberts, Jr., Chief Justice.


85 posted on 06/02/2024 12:58:44 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Sidebar Moderator

This I agree with in the whole


86 posted on 06/02/2024 12:59:29 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

Bragg is an election fixer but I know what you mean.


87 posted on 06/02/2024 12:59:33 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: spacejunkie2001

What happens if Soto rejects Trump’s appeal from NY and 5 other justices want it?


88 posted on 06/02/2024 1:03:32 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Political Junkie Too

overseeing the booking of transaction within The Trump Organization is not a personal act. >> I recall that Trump did not do the GL classifying. He just had the checks and invoices scanned into the Trump org system. his accountants would have done the classifying. and as the checks were made out to Cohen they would naturally be legal payments. again no real law broken. For a large org scanning and classifying GL entries and reclassing is a day to day process.


89 posted on 06/02/2024 1:04:38 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2
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To: Sidebar Moderator

You can go here for a copy of Merchan’s 55 pages of byzantine instructions to the jury that they were not allowed to have in the jury room which is very unusual. No one is talking about it but this raises a due process issue

https://www.nycourts.gov/LegacyPDFS/press/PDFs/People%20v.%20DJT%20Jury%20Instructions%20and%20Charges%20FINAL%205-23-24.pdf

They are so complex that even if the jury was made up of 12 jurists, rather than laymen, they would not be able to retain them from memory in deliberation.
It would require hundreds of trips to the courtroom to have Merchan read pieces back as they deliberate. I suspect the reason he would not let them have them was to put them in a he must have been guilty of something frame of mind rather than adhering to the notion of considering all the legal elements and proving all the elements beyond a reasonable doubt. And between the base offense and the three predicate offenses there are scores of legal elements they had to consider. By not giving them a copy, the constitutional issue is he was deprived of fair consideration


90 posted on 06/02/2024 1:06:54 PM PDT by chuckee
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To: jjotto

great, thanks. I knew the SC oversaw circuits so I posted the list of who’s over what for ALL to see :)


91 posted on 06/02/2024 1:07:37 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas

not sure. if it comes through the circuit in her jurisdiction she has full authority to take it or leave it?


92 posted on 06/02/2024 1:09:00 PM PDT by spacejunkie2001
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To: Sidebar Moderator

I wish this immunity case could solve the problem.

But Article I says that after removal from office POTUS is subject to indictment, trial, and punishment like an ordinary citizen.

True “removal” is used describing impeachment, but I presume Founders intent was “President only while President” - and I bet the Court sees it that way, too.

We’ll see.


93 posted on 06/02/2024 1:09:09 PM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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To: spacejunkie2001

Maybe there is another way.


94 posted on 06/02/2024 1:13:14 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Re-imagine the media!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

If (WHEN!?) SCOTUS upends the left’s attacks on Trump the chorus of leftist demands for packing the court will be deafening. And the good news about the records case is that it’s being heard in Florida by what appears to be a FAIR judge.


95 posted on 06/02/2024 1:13:28 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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To: BipolarBob

I realized that right after I hit “send”!


96 posted on 06/02/2024 1:14:02 PM PDT by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Rastus

There’s been speculation that it involves something wrong with how he adopted his children. But his children are adults now so that wouldn’t affect him now.

Of more serious note is the fact that John Brennan and James Clapper commissioned Dennis Montgomery to write software that would enable the supercomputer “The Hammer” to spy on just about everyone. Montgomery’s records show that Chief Justice Roberts, along with other justices, judges, politicians, media personalities, and Donald Trump, were among those targeted. Montgomery says that the purpose for the spying was to get bribery material. Part of the information collected involved financial data including passwords. So anything that involved the use of money is potential bribery material.


97 posted on 06/02/2024 1:22:04 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: FMBass

Yes, I’ve read that too.

Hopefully Judge Cannon can get to the bottom of that too.


98 posted on 06/02/2024 1:25:00 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: Navy Patriot
Roberts may be a problem, he may be subject to blackmail over irregularities in the adoption of his two children.

Aren't his kids full grown adults by now? What can they do to him? Take away grown ups who no longer live with him?

99 posted on 06/02/2024 1:26:49 PM PDT by PJ-Comix (Yes, I am the Toxic Troll Terminator)
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To: PJ-Comix

See my post 2 above yours.

Brennan and Clapper have been collecting bribery material on all the judges for years, and it includes anything financial.


100 posted on 06/02/2024 1:30:06 PM PDT by butterdezillion
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