Posted on 05/30/2024 8:37:00 AM PDT by ChicagoConservative27
Oradour-sur-Glane (France) (AFP) – A French village preserved as a reminder of Nazi cruelty since Waffen-SS troops murdered 643 people there in 1944 is in danger of decay, sparking efforts to preserve the site.
On June 10, 1944, Oradour-sur-Glane in German-occupied southern France became the scene of a massacre of civilians that still shocks the nation to this day.
Possibly as punishment for the killing by the French Resistance of a high-ranking SS member, German troops rounded up everyone they could find in the village and machine-gunned or burned alive men, women and children, torched or razed buildings and destroyed a church.
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Minor correction. Das Reich was the 2nd SS Panzer Division. The 1st SS ("Leibstandarte Adolf Hitler") was stationed at Beverloo (near Brussels) in Belgium at that time.
Correct. I was going from memory, never safe. It was the 2nd SS Panzer Division.
“Why are so many Germans so sanctimonious and smug. I don’t get it.”
This applies to their self-loathing liberals.
What’s ironic is that the people in Germany who are the most ardent pro-German nationalists are the Turks who settled in Germany.
When Germany won the World Cup in 2014 it was the Turks who broke out the German flags and proudly celebrated their adopted homeland while the German liberals told them to shut up and stop being proud of Germany.
It is the Turks who have helped the AfD become a viable force in German politics.
They may even influence the upcoming EU Parliament elections and move that body both right and nationalist. Defeating the liberals who want the EU to become a nation unto itself.
We did similar atrocities, war brings out the worst in people, not the best. I served with many of the WW II guys, they told me that a lot of bad s#!t happened in WW II and Korea. As the population grows and moves beyond the WW II years, that village may end up as a condo complex. All that is needed is for someone to offer enough $$$$ to the politicians to allow the purchase and make the change. Politicians can change history, and they often do.
Well, generally not.
It's one thing if individuals or units commit atrocities vs. the institutionalized atrocities of the Nazis.
Individual US units have committed atrocities but there was no general policy of encouraging or even requiring such atrocities in US units as there was in the Waffen SS and Wehrmacht.
Limited reprisal actions were still allowed under the laws of war before WWII, but the Germans committed atrocities far beyond anything remotely sanctioned. In Poland, for instance, I think they started out with 10 Poles killed for every German killed by the Home Army. By 1944 I think it was up to 100. It was so bad that in a few places the Home Army was able to strike deals where they would forego killing German soldiers off duty in the streets if the Germans would forego the reprisals.
I thought this was about the Azovs. Oh well, there were other Nazis, I guess.
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Me too. Reading a book about that right now.
Had an uncle who barely survived those battles.
Doesn’t surprise me the Turks would consider themselves German nationalists.
Turkey and Germany have a long association with each other.
You could say that. From 1529 to 1683, they tried to conquer the Holy Roman Empire, as our old polity was called, and wars against them continued until 1878.
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