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Man known for 23 years as Conception Bay John Doe identified as a Cuban in Canada on a tourist visa
CBC News ^ | May 28, 2024 | Ronna Syed, Bob McKeown

Posted on 05/29/2024 12:39:54 AM PDT by jerod

Remains were discovered at a dump site near St. John’s in 2001

The man who became known as Conception Bay John Doe after his severed head was found buried in a dump site 23 years ago has been identified by the Royal Newfoundland Constabulary as a Cuban who came to Canada on a tourist visa, The Fifth Estate has learned.

Temistocle Casas was identified through genetic genealogy that led investigators to his first cousin, police said.

RNC Const. Greg Davis said he will never forget the moment he learned Casas's name and saw his photo for the first time.

"Surreal I guess would be the word to use. I couldn't believe it had happened," Davis said. "I always knew it was possible but I didn't know if we were going to get there … my head was spinning, it was a crazy moment."

Two men looking for tree saplings discovered Casas's remains in a Billy Boot shopping bag in a dump site in Conception Bay, near St. John's, in 2001.

He had been known as Conception Bay John Doe since then.

After the remains were discovered, police said the victim probably lived in Quebec or Ontario or possibly the northeastern United States. Through isotope analysis and carbon dates, it was established that he was probably born in the late 1950s or early 1960s.

However, the RNC has now told The Fifth Estate they don't believe Casas ever lived in the U.S. They said he came to Montreal on a tourist visa in 1992.

It is not known how Casas ended up in Newfoundland.

"Through our investigation, we believe Mr. Casas was killed in 1997 or 1998," said Davis. "We're not going to disclose any more details at this time since it is an active homicide investigation."

The Fifth Estate was not able to find any records indicating Casas became a Canadian citizen.

Three years ago, the RNC began using genetic genealogy — when DNA is used to do family tree research — to try to identify the man. But any matches made with relatives had been too distant to make an identification, according to the RNC.

Then, in February 2024, a man from the U.S. uploaded his DNA. He turned out to be Casas's first cousin...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Cuba; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dna; murder
Hmm... Came to Montreal Canada in 1992 on a 'tourist visa'... Then gets murdered in 1997 or 1998 and his body is discovered later in a landfill located in St. John's Newfoundland, a province typically accessed only by boat or plane...

The Italian mafia and the Hells Angels control Montreal, and definitely did in 1992... Newfoundland has it's own seedy underworld as well with a lot of Irish descendants, etc... And I can't imagine that a whole lot of Cubans were going anywhere outside of Cuba in 1992 without Fidel Castro's okay.

A strange case indeed... I can see a NETFLIX movie deal in here somewhere for this John Doe's Cuban cousin who's currently living in America.

1 posted on 05/29/2024 12:39:54 AM PDT by jerod
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To: jerod

That depends how they came over. Some have floated in on tires.


2 posted on 05/29/2024 12:45:17 AM PDT by Jonty30 (He hunted a mammoth for me, just because I said I was hungry. He is such a good friend. )
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To: jerod

‘A Cuban in O Canada,
that’s gotta be Fidelito Trudo


3 posted on 05/29/2024 12:47:00 AM PDT by A strike (no tyranny that cannot be justified by 'climate change')
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To: Jonty30

I doubt that he floated on a tire to Montreal after getting his tourist visa, but you never know.


4 posted on 05/29/2024 12:49:39 AM PDT by jerod (Nazis were essentially Socialist in Hugo Boss uniforms... Get over it!)
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To: Jonty30

Inner tubes, which are getting hard to find...


5 posted on 05/29/2024 3:18:23 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: jerod

In a snub to the US, O Canada allowed/encouraged Cuban travel, which helped in keeping Cuba financially afloat.

Like many unidentified bodies in the US, this “visa friend” was undoubtedly killed in a Hispanic drug war.

History has been changed because of such “friends”.


6 posted on 05/29/2024 3:25:06 AM PDT by Does so ( 🇺🇦....We are in the later stages of a Communist takeover...)
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To: Does so

Bunches of them on Amazon. I was curious.


7 posted on 05/29/2024 3:25:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: jerod

Wonder how many folks come to the US, and Canada, then never leave???
Prolly too many for ICE to eject.


8 posted on 05/29/2024 3:34:45 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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To: jerod

Probably released from one of Fidel’s prisons/psych hospitals.


9 posted on 05/29/2024 3:59:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Lethal Force Authorized At Mar-a-Lago!)
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To: jerod
From the article: Three years ago, the RNC began using genetic genealogy...

Translation: The police paid a contractor to compare the DNA to data from a genealogy company such as "23 and Me".

10 posted on 05/29/2024 4:58:29 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: Does so

11 posted on 05/29/2024 5:44:50 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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To: Right Brigade

At least Tony killed Communists for fun.


12 posted on 05/29/2024 5:50:19 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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So he said...
I don’t think people like Tony could live under any type of government.
Lawless thugs will always rebel against any type of authority.

“Someday the cartel might get ‘em, but the law never will.”


13 posted on 05/29/2024 7:54:23 AM PDT by Right Brigade (It was better before they voted for whats his name,this must be the New World)
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