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To: redheadedshannon
The only people we should be fighting with right now are Democrats & leftists & the woke.

Maybe you should pass along that bit of advice to the worthless RINOs that control the party since they are the ones that are causing many of the problems within the party (and preventing any coherent messaging as a result). See my tagline.

34 posted on 05/22/2024 6:54:15 PM PDT by Major Matt Mason (To solve the Democrat problem, the RINO problem must first be solved.)
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To: Major Matt Mason

They aren’t the only ones causing problems. Whether people here want to admit it or not, both groups are causing problems in their own ways.

Weve always had worthless rinos in the GOP. There have been a group of them through out history. Their instincts are not particularly helpful. They are at their core moderately conservative, nervous of confrontation & want to be accepted by the media & celebrities. In half of these people, they come by it honestly. They represent areas or demographics where clear majorities are ruled by moderation & a center or center right candidate is the only Republican candidate electable on our side.

In those cases, they aren’t going to vote for all of the things we support, but they do vote with us a majority of the time. They empower our majorities, support conservative appointments to the courts, cabinet & agencies the vast majority of the time & are generally decent people. If you are looking for (our style) right wing conservatives to be nominated in centrist, moderate areas- they will absolutely lose.

We have to convincee a majority of that electorate to become conservative first. That ought to be a goal for our side- do a better job convincing people we are right. If your basic belief is that every single elected Republican from every district has to be identically conservative, we will never have a majority. If your basic attitude is ‘I don’t want to work with anybody that isn’t a carbon copy of me’, then you will never succeed politically. All of those areas you lose because of stubbornness & write off for not being ideal will be won by Democrats who are willing to team up with moderate Democrats & Independents to achieve as many of their goals as possible.

The other group (that I fully understand anger towards) making up the other half of moderate or establishment types in the Gop- are all of the flimsy, centrist, career politician, elected officials from solid, conservative districts & states who don’t adequately represent their electorate (Mitt Romney in Utah, Mitch McConnell in Kentucky, etc.). Those are places ripe for primarying with real conservatives. That’s just dealing with the moderate, establishment group causing problems for Republicans.

The other group wreaking havoc with their own set of bad attitudes are many Trump, MAGA type populist conservatives. I consider myself part of this group- so I definitely feel more loyalty towards it. I think some of the instincts on running campaigns, getting good candidates & putting out a winning message are lacking in too many instances. People are coping with those losses by not learning from them, not becoming more savvy & becoming a bunch of defeatists. The one thing I’m incredibly tired of is the badmouthing, combativeness & lack of self-reflection. Every day I read something from a fellow Trump voter about boycotting voting for anyone but Trump. Most of the past conservative successes we have had have been brought about by happy warriors, who didn’t write others off- but instead charmed & eventually convinced others to adopt a conservative idea or policy or movement.

Trump was successful in the beginning because he convinced nonvoters, Independents & different communities to hear his ideas. He was blunt & honest- but he wasn’t a sourpuss or a killjoy. He made people laugh & was iconoclastic. I cannot watch many Trump loyalists destroying things with pissy, negative attitudes (& zero understanding of how to succeed politically)- any more than I can withstand a small, elitest group of establishmentarians sell out good Americans for campaign contributions & invites to the latest D.C. cocktail party. At present, you are both spending more time smacking at one another than the communists your supposed to be campaigning against. Grow up! Or lose the country, the Constitution & any freedoms we have left.

Neither group appears to have the wherewithal or stamina or, frankly, skill to lead successfully & triumph. Both groups have become redouts of defeatists & kamikaze. I hope Trump wins & I will vote straight red as always. I will also sign up every person I can. But after this election, win or lose, I think it’s critical to find a third option for conservatives- led by a new group who wants to lead, doesn’t expect defeat & doesn’t write off any voting demographic. If you aren’t going to contribute anything real, for God sakes- step aside! 🙄🫤🤔


35 posted on 05/22/2024 11:39:57 PM PDT by redheadedshannon ( )
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