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To: Robert DeLong
I’m jealous. The Ukrainians follow their Constitution and fight to protect their borders, too. I wish we could do that here!

After we were attacked, the Ukrainians even helped the US during Operation Desert Storm and had casualties, too, while helping us in our fight.

Friends remember this with our gratitude and with our help now in their fight for their sovereignty and survival after Russia attacked and has invaded them, while the ignorant fling poo at them (and at us, too, for helping them).

Low class and not much for integrity here, either.

27 posted on 05/21/2024 7:34:32 AM PDT by GBA (Endeavor to persevere. Onward through the fog …)
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To: GBA
I will agree that if our borders were being protected, then there would be less blowback against helping Ukraine. However, there is more behind the lack of support than just that aspect of it.

One is the fact that we have been involved in far too many wars, where we eventually lost, spending enormous amounts of money without realizing anything that we can say has benefitted our nation. We are not richer, we are not safer, if anything we become less safer with each new loss, nor are we respected or admired for our efforts.

Many of our men & women have lost their lives, or even worse, many have lost their quality of life after their service due to injuries they incurred in their service to this nation, and they seem be not even be treated like they should be.

But I think the overriding point here is that this conflict could have easily been avoided, because the lie is that Russia invaded Ukraine for their landmass & the riches in natural resources, coupled with the lie that Putin is looking to reconstitute the USSR.

There is zero evidence that these claims have any evidence that confirms this.

The coup d'état is what initially opened the can of worms. Democracy's do not allow their emotions to dictate the change of leadership. Nor should another Democracy go egg on a coup d'état either, and there was more than enough evidence of Victoria Nuland was front & center handing out cookies to the demonstrators.

Our involvement should have been focused on eliminating the friction.

But that wasn't done, and that's because the obvious intention was to absolutely stoke the friction. Obama & Biden were extremely upset that Russia had retaliated by seizing the Crimea.

They now wanted to have a proxy war with Russia. So, they allowed the hostilities to be piqued to get an internal civil war type of confrontation between the Nazis within Ukraine who held nothing but pure hatred for all Russians.

Regardless of the fact that these Russian speaking citizens considered themselves as Ukrainians, but their loyalties still had ties to Russia as well with extended families still living in Russia.

There were most likely some Russians living in Ukraine that were far more loyal to Russia than Ukraine, but they were by far a small minority. The same can not be said for the Ukrainian Nazis.

That is the biggest sticking point for most.

However, there is yet another larger sticking point as well, and that is the theft of taxpayer money from the Treasury being executed by sending large amounts of money to Ukraine, and being laundered back to people in the nation, including the Bidens, as well as, others.

Meanwhile regular Americans are suffering while the 10% have been realizing large amounts of money raising their holdings & lifestyles.

This is exactly why the most recent generation to break into adulthood, are leaving the Democrat Party in large numbers. They are being pinched out of a declining economy for the many, becoming the first generation to do worse, by a large measure, than their parents.

29 posted on 05/21/2024 9:18:38 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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