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Live thread [05/03/2024]: Trump show trial in New York, brought to you by Biden operative Matt Colangelo; post comments here
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Posted on 05/03/2024 8:06:27 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator

Edited on 05/03/2024 10:26:12 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator. [history]

The case blew up in their faces yesterday. Michael Cohen nailed for perjury by the prosecution’s own witness.

Update, some observations.

President Trump will be appealing the illegal gag order on constitutional grounds. Gag orders are normally applied to the prosecution to avoid tainting the jury pool.

It’s never intended to be used against the defendant. The prosecution by definition doesn’t need protection — the defendant does.

The case may never reach the jury. Another thing. SCOTUS’s pending ruling on immunity (June) may factor into this.

The alleged falsification of business records ALL took place AFTER Trump became president. An evidentiary hearing to sort what may have been executive vs personal actions would be in order. This another reason this trial should not have move forward before all the constitutional challenges were settled.

The statute of limitations on the alleged records falsification has already expired. So they turned an expired misdemeanor case into a felony by alleging that the falsification was in furtherance of another crime — a state election fraud law that doesn’t even apply to this case since Trump was a federal candidate.

Harvey Weinstein’s conviction was overturned for similar abuses of discretion by prosecutors in that case. They prejudiced the jury by hauling into the courtroom all kinds of stuff having no connection to the case at hand.

Hope Hicks.

She’s regurgitating stuff we already knew. Airing dirty laundry, nothing more. Still no crime. She wasn’t in the room during the supposed Pecker-Trump meeting in August, 2015. Which wouldn’t have been a crime either. This is the most laughable case I’ve ever witnessed.

Colangelo & co are making all the same mistakes the Weinstein prosecutors made. They’re trying to prejudice the jury by bringing in all this extraneous stuff to create the air of criminality.


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KEYWORDS: bidenreich; colangelo; electioninterference; fjb; hopehicks; hushmoneytrial; hushtrumptrial; nyc; perjury; political; showtrial; trial; trump; trumppersecution
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To: Dalberg-Acton

Unless national security is involved, yeah I’ve the same question.

Accused or not, the 1A doesn’t care or have a provision for a ‘gag’ order cuz the government wants you to be quiet. The judge is government and has limited authority just like the rest of government.

Could a judge issue a gag order to stop somebody from exposing government wrongdoings?? Where’s the line here.


41 posted on 05/03/2024 10:22:48 AM PDT by fuzzylogic (welfare state = sharing of poor moral choices among everybody)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2024/05/03/poll-potential-trump-conviction-would-not-lift-bidens-lagging-support/


42 posted on 05/03/2024 10:31:04 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Sidebar Moderator

As Steve Bannon pointed out this morning, Democrats put Trump on trial because they still haven’t gotten over the fact that Hillary lost fair and square. This case has zero to do with a business records dispute.


44 posted on 05/03/2024 10:35:52 AM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Coronal

SHE ALWAYS HAS AN AXE TO GRIND.

SHE THINKS SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN HIGHER UP IN TRUMP ADMIN.


45 posted on 05/03/2024 10:43:13 AM PDT by ridesthemiles (not giving up on TRUMP---EVER)
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To: Coronal
Hope Hicks was siphoned by the state, she has to show up. She isn't there because she sides with the defense.
46 posted on 05/03/2024 10:48:26 AM PDT by cdnerds (Vapingunderground)
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To: cdnerds

“Siphoned”? I think you mean “subpoenaed”. And yes, she can be compelled to testify, but the court has no authority over what she says other than to compel her to tell the truth.


47 posted on 05/03/2024 10:55:15 AM PDT by Coronal
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To: ridesthemiles

She’s hot yet Trump never......


48 posted on 05/03/2024 11:37:10 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (1218 - NEVER FORGET!)
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To: Sidebar Moderator

The tape played yesterday and discussed today, while good for my case, was cut off at the end, in the early stages of something very positive that I was in the midst of saying. Why was it cut off???

>>>Fox News just read this new Truth from President Trump.

Another egregious mistake, which will backfire, I pray🙏


49 posted on 05/03/2024 11:37:55 AM PDT by edie1960 (7 )
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To: Coronal

Lol yes.. damn auto correct rofl


50 posted on 05/03/2024 12:46:19 PM PDT by cdnerds (Vapingunderground)
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To: cdnerds

lol


51 posted on 05/03/2024 1:10:45 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: cdnerds

That’s what I thought.


52 posted on 05/03/2024 1:11:54 PM PDT by Coronal
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To: fuzzylogic

I don’t remember seeing “national security” exceptions to the Constitution.


53 posted on 05/03/2024 1:40:42 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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For the judge and the prosecutor, the case against Trump is that he stole the election from Hillary in 2016. It’s possible that all of the jurors voted for Hillary, so it may be easy to get them to find Trump guilty, no matter how flimsy the legal case is. Merchan and Bragg don’t care if the conviction is overturned on appeal and they get admonished because that may be a year or two after the election.


54 posted on 05/03/2024 2:15:24 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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To: Verginius Rufus

That may be the underlying intent but I fail to see anything about this trial that’s new. Seems to be a re-airing of dirty laundry and recycling of old news. They needed new material. A conviction here is likely to elicit a collective yawn, and nothing more.


56 posted on 05/03/2024 2:30:03 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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To: Verginius Rufus

Trump has been brilliant in shaping the overall narrative and exposing the trial as a political witch hunt. If polls are any indication, most people see it the same way.


57 posted on 05/03/2024 2:33:21 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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This made me sad. I do know plenty of things but I had no idea of a Kangaroo’s lifespan. I was holding out slight hope that it could be close to a humans’. Sadly no. It’s only around six years. I would have loved to see the most famous Kangaroo ever, Skippy the Bush Kangaroo appear at this trial. I guess we’ll have to settle for just plain everyday Kangaroos.


58 posted on 05/03/2024 2:44:46 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult (“History doesn’t repeat itself but it often rhymes” - Possibly Mark Twain.)
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59 posted on 05/03/2024 2:57:06 PM PDT by bankwalker (Repeal the 19th ...)
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult

😂😂😂


60 posted on 05/03/2024 3:51:48 PM PDT by Sidebar Moderator
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