Posted on 04/25/2024 10:59:41 AM PDT by Macho MAGA Man
The Supreme Court on Thursday heard oral arguments on Trump’s presidential immunity claim in Jack Smith’s January 6 case in DC.
The case made its way to the Supreme Court after the DC Circuit Court of Appeals ruled Trump was not immune from prosecution.
Trump’s lawyers previously argued that Trump is immune from federal prosecution for alleged ‘crimes’ committed while he served as US President.
“In 234 years of American history, no president ever faced criminal prosecution for his official acts. Until 19 days ago, no court had ever addressed whether immunity from such prosecution exists,” Trump’s lawyers wrote in last month’s filing, according to CBS News. “To this day, no appellate court has addressed it. The question stands among the most complex, intricate, and momentous issues that this Court will be called on to decide.”
John Sauer, a Missouri-based attorney for Trump, gave an opening statement on Thursday and argued that Jack Smith’s indictment uses vague statutes to criminalize “core authority” of the presidency.
As expected, the liberal justices, similar to the appellate court judges, floated absurd hypotheticals.
Liberal Justice Elena Kagan asked John Sauer, “How about if a president orders the military to stage a coup? Is that immune? Is it an official act?”
from prosecution if he ordered the military to assassinate his political rival.
“…If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military or orders someone to assassinate him, is that within his official acts that for which he can get immunity?” Sotomayor asked John Sauer.
Sauer replied, “It would depend on the hypothetical. What we can see that could well be an official act.”
Sotomayor defended Obama’s drone strikes on civilians while attacking Trump.
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Looks like they're listing what a Democrat President might do.
As is looking increasingly likely.
I listened to as much of it as my work would allow, and it’s clear the ruling is going to be 6-3 in favor of Trump, but narrowly based enough that the left will figure out yet another way to make Trump’s life miserable, while defending to the death (his) immunity for everything Biden has ever done.
Biden seems to be supplying them with questions. The old "Asking for a friend" gambit.
How about making up a lie about WMD’s in Iraq..notice no one wanted George W Bush indicted..perhaps he should..or when Obama droned people without authority, can he be charged, I wish!
A coup…. How do you overthrow yourself …2 order military to kill a rival…..ever hear of an “unlawful order”?
These judges are just plain stupid
They do those things anyway, through the CIA.
I’ve not seen anyone argue for Biden immunity. Where have you seen this?
If they want to make POTUS accountable.....
They need to start with Obama droning teenage US citizens that had not even been accused of committing crimes. Start there, then we can move on to hear the cases against Trump.
This is what the left does.... they act ignorant and lack common sense... they fail to put things in context or outright lie. Sad. All Trump did was question an election that was clearly stolen from him.
“He could. And why? Because he’s doing it for personal reasons. He’s not doing it like President Obama is alleged to have done it to protect the country from a terrorist. He’s doing it for personal gain. And isn’t that the nature of the allegations here, that he’s not doing them, doing these acts in furtherance of an official responsibility? He’s doing it for personal gain,” Sotomayor said."
And there is how they are going to try and weasel things as some here have predicted, i.e., how to make something apply to one individual while letting others ("their guys/gals") off.
Yep!
This case has such huge ramifications that this court is going to remand back to the lower court first.
The gay lawyer was basically saying to “trust the DOJ” and trust that the Senate won’t confirm a corrupt AG who will tell the President everything he dos is legal.
I can’t imagine the SCOTUS is going to want to dissect this and would prefer to kick the can.
Liberals are so stupid.
Even WITH immunity, Biden just breaks the law anyway. Without it, Biden will continue to break laws.
Oh my she is really that retarded. No awareness of her surroundings or what us happening now.
Biden IS basically assassinating his rival because “Orange Man Bad” in lawfare.
Dies she not see that? Rhetorical.
It is’t Trump they are afraid of. Not really.
It’s Christ.
We must be closer to the end when they plead to the rocks to fall on them and hide them from the wrath of the Lamb than I thought
I think that it is a good thing that she introduced it to the discourse.
Concluding that he was allegedly protecting the nation while at the same time seeking to delay the election to investigate irregularities is for personal gain can seen through by the avg 12yo.
“We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is trending in that direction.” - Harry S Truman)
It is not at all proper for courts to try to make laws or to read law school theories into the law and policy laid down by the Congress.
We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F.B.I. is tending in that direction. They are dabbling in sex life scandles [sic] and plain blackmail, when they should be catching criminals.
May 12, 1945 | Harry S. Truman
Harry Truman Library (.gov)
https://www.trumanlibrary.gov › library › truman-papers
Once a government is committed to the principle of silencing the voice of opposition, it has only one way to go, and that is down the path of increasingly repressive measures, until it becomes a source of terror to all its citizens and creates a country where everyone lives in fear..
Harry S. Truman. - August 8, 1950..
I meant that the left is going to have to preserve some concept of Presidential immunity, otherwise what happens to Trump will certainly happen to Biden, not from the GOP of course but from NGO legal groups like the ACLJ (Sekulow's firm) and such.
I am far more worried about the Dems taking over the House before November and passing an insurrection law against Trump running, in which the Senate will concur, Biden will sign, and SCOTUS will have to allow because of their earlier ruling on the issue.
As usual we can thank squishy Republicans in the Senate for voting to confirm these 3 braindead women.
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