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Zelenskyy straight-up said Ukraine is going to lose if Congress doesn't send more aid
MSN - Business Insider ^ | April 8, 2024 | Mia Jankowicz - Agence France-Presse

Posted on 04/08/2024 12:06:38 PM PDT by Navy Patriot

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Ukraine Is Going To Lose!
1 posted on 04/08/2024 12:06:38 PM PDT by Navy Patriot
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To: Navy Patriot

Well... bye.


2 posted on 04/08/2024 12:08:04 PM PDT by rarestia (“A nation which can prefer disgrace to danger is prepared for a master, and deserves one.” -Hamilton)
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To: Navy Patriot
We've seen this approach before.


3 posted on 04/08/2024 12:10:01 PM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: All

I straight up don’t care


4 posted on 04/08/2024 12:11:29 PM PDT by escapefromboston (Peace, commerce and honest friendship with all nations, entangling alliances with none.)
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To: Navy Patriot

We’re not your friggin ATM asshole.


5 posted on 04/08/2024 12:12:00 PM PDT by Kevin in California (EP)
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To: Navy Patriot

The hallmark of a good scam is they never leave money on the table. Z will go to his estate in a foreign country when the people that installed him tell him the money is drying up. That’s years away. Many in Congress openly admit they “care” more about Ukraine than Americans.


6 posted on 04/08/2024 12:12:27 PM PDT by OakOak (Misinformation Campaign on your TV)
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To: mac_truck
We've seen this approach before.

Yes, ... still it's Good News!

7 posted on 04/08/2024 12:12:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: mac_truck

That National Lampoon cover photo has an interesting back story…


8 posted on 04/08/2024 12:15:01 PM PDT by NavyShoe
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To: Navy Patriot

Y-y-you mean they’re not winning? What will happen to all the pensions?


9 posted on 04/08/2024 12:20:24 PM PDT by Karliner (Heb 4:12 Rom 8:28 Rev 3, "...This is the end of the beginning." Churchill)
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To: Navy Patriot

He’s not wrong. Russia would have equally been defeated by Germany without US and British supplies and Allied attacks on Germany, including air raids that razed big chunks of German cities. For instance, the US sent 14,000 airplanes and 13,000 tanks to Russia, including ~5,000 of the Airacobra, a fighter first made in 1941.


https://www.rferl.org/a/did-us-lend-lease-aid-tip-the-balance-in-soviet-fight-against-nazi-germany/30599486.html
[Most famously, Soviet dictator Josef Stalin raised a toast to the Lend-Lease program at the November 1943 Tehran conference with British Prime Minister Winston Churchill and U.S. President Franklin Roosevelt.
“I want to tell you what, from the Russian point of view, the president and the United States have done for victory in this war,” Stalin said. “The most important things in this war are the machines.... The United States is a country of machines. Without the machines we received through Lend-Lease, we would have lost the war.”

Nikita Khrushchev offered the same opinion.

“If the United States had not helped us, we would not have won the war,” he wrote in his memoirs. “One-on-one against Hitler’s Germany, we would not have withstood its onslaught and would have lost the war. No one talks about this officially, and Stalin never, I think, left any written traces of his opinion, but I can say that he expressed this view several times in conversations with me.”

The United States provided the Soviet Union with more than 400,000 jeeps and trucks, 14,000 aircraft, 8,000 tractors and construction vehicles, and 13,000 battle tanks.

However, the real significance of Lend-Lease for the Soviet war effort was that it covered the “sensitive points” of Soviet production — gasoline, explosives, aluminum, nonferrous metals, radio communications, and so on, says historian Boris Sokolov.

“In a hypothetical battle one-on-one between the U.S.S.R and Germany, without the help of Lend-Lease and without the diversion of significant forces of the Luftwaffe and the German Navy and the diversion of more than one-quarter of its land forces in the fight against Britain and the United States, Stalin could hardly have beaten Hitler,” Sokolov wrote in an essay for RFE/RL’s Russian Service.]


https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bell_P-39_Airacobra#Soviet_Union
[A total of 4,719 P-39s were sent to the Soviet Union, accounting for more than one-third of all U.S. and UK-supplied fighter aircraft in the VVS, and nearly half of all P-39 production.[62] Soviet Airacobra losses totalled 1,030 aircraft (49 in 1942, 305 in 1943, 486 in 1944 and 190 in 1945).[63]]


10 posted on 04/08/2024 12:22:45 PM PDT by Zhang Fei (My dad had a Delta 88. That was a car. It was like driving your living room)
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To: Navy Patriot

They are going to lose either way. Why postpone it.


11 posted on 04/08/2024 12:24:08 PM PDT by McGruff (Don't underestimate Joe's ability to f*** things up - Barack Obama)
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To: NavyShoe
Well, with that teaser, care to share that story?

Yes, I probably could search for it, but others might enjoy it as well and telling it here would be beneficial.

12 posted on 04/08/2024 12:28:00 PM PDT by Michael.SF. (Pray for Biden: Psalms 109: 8)
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To: Karliner
What will happen to all the pensions?

All Uke Nazi government bureaucrats will retire to the US where they will become paid alphabet agency advisors.

13 posted on 04/08/2024 12:29:32 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: rarestia

Negotiate a ceasefire NOW before you lose all bargaining power imbecile.


14 posted on 04/08/2024 12:34:09 PM PDT by LeonardFMason
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To: LeonardFMason

Treat Ukraine like Gaza


15 posted on 04/08/2024 12:39:37 PM PDT by Fai Mao (Starve the Beast and steal its food.)
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To: All
Mrs Zelensky's incessant nagging is to blame.

"Look at these shoes. I had to wear them twice. I told you
I needed to go to Paris for new ones. But you never listen."

16 posted on 04/08/2024 12:42:38 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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To: Liz
LOL!

Thanks, Liz!

17 posted on 04/08/2024 12:46:26 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Celebrate Decivilization)
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To: Navy Patriot

So, it’s time to call for a cease-fire and negotiations for peace. But Zelensky can’t make any demands now (he could have made some in 2022, but it’s too late now). Zelensky should resign and live in his British mansion, and let someone else, someone friendlier with Russia take the lead and maybe get a better deal. But if Ukraine lets Biden’s people participate, expect no favors.


18 posted on 04/08/2024 12:48:32 PM PDT by elpadre
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To: Navy Patriot

They will lose with or without the aid. The Ukrainian people are tired of being cannon fodder in a proxy war. The median age of a Ukrainian soldier is 42. The draft age minimum is set at 27. Zelensky tried to lower it to 25 and was met by stiff resistance from the public.

How many billions more must we borrow to prolong this unwinnable conflict that has been ongoing since 2014?


19 posted on 04/08/2024 12:51:51 PM PDT by kabar
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To: Navy Patriot

y/v/w


20 posted on 04/08/2024 12:52:56 PM PDT by Liz (This then is how we should pray: Our Father who art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. )
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