“Leftists have to hit bottom, or worse, before they will learn.”
I think for many of them, hitting bottom, or worse, is not enough. They are immune both to reason and to reality.
“I think for many of them (ie, liberals), hitting bottom, or worse, is not enough. They are immune both to reason and to reality.
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Spot on. You cannot reason with someone who did not use reason in the first place to arrive at their position.