Russia 'will likely lose' its war in Ukraine if the US can keep from falling prey to Moscow's information game, conflict analysts say

Business Insider via Yahoo ^ | April 2nd, 2024 | Ella Sherman

[Darksheare]

Yup.
But that’s not what the supporters say or claim.
It’s insane.

[Reverend Wright]

The Zeepers go by the idea that t”he narrative is more important than reality”, for public opinion in the West, as well as for the war on the ground in Ukraine.

[Darksheare]

The narrative, perception, and virtue signals.
The holy triumvirate of certain political types.

[Rockingham]

You are correct in your analysis. I think though that China is unlikely to go to war because if they did, they might take Taiwan, but the cost would be considerable and would lead to China's commercial and trade isolation.

Moreover, if China did significant damage to the US, the American public would be furious and out for revenge. As an opening counter-move, China would be stripped of their external assets through US diplomatic, economic, and military action.

From that perspective, China's leadership seems likely to realize that going to war would not improve China's position even if Taiwan were easily taken. As with Germany in 1914, the shrewder choice is to avoid war while continuing to pursue economic and political gains.

[rxh4n1]

“We want America First narrative, yes.”

Right Frenchy, we know where you’re coming from. America First as in first to get militarily involved in the war. Bankrupt our country and get my kids killed first.

[ansel12]

I’m not sure that Taiwan is the first concern to China.

I think there could be a lot of unfolding pushes and strategic positioning from China during the next 10 and 20 years.

China now truly exists and has vain dreams and overly ambitious plans of a global scale, they can’t force them yet and they will have setbacks and overreach and sometimes make fools of themselves, but they are here in the 21st century and their quiet days are in their rear view mirror.

[Rockingham]

China’s leadership is haunted by their country’s history of strong governments eventually declining and being followed by disorder and warring states based on regional subcultures and power centers. Moreover, China’s geographic position is relatively constrained, with even her sea access subject to interdiction and harassment. China may try to press against these limitations, but they will persist and restrain her freedom of action.

[wardaddy]

Well they are for certain the paradigm for neocon stereotype

[Rocco DiPippo]

The US must be aware of and avoid Russian disinformation operations at all costs if it wants to maintain its Western values and help Ukraine win the war, conflict analysts argue. "Basic facts are in question daily as the Kremlin floods the Western debate with its narratives," analysts at the Washington-based Institute for the Study of War said in a March 27 report.

Funny how shrill the Nuland/Kagan bloodthirsty, warmongering scum are getting lately. That couldn't be an attempt by those dirtbags to shake more money from American taxpayers and hand it over to their gay-dancing, grifting pet, could it?

[FLT-bird]

LOL! bullchit. The Ukes are running out of men. This was always the likely outcome.

[silverleaf]

Read up on Leo Strauss
You’ll see how the terms “neocon” and Straussian fit this cabal of policy influencers

[mac_truck]

China doesn't need to go to war to achieve its goals, they simply need to continue peaceful (and profitable) economic development of the Global South and watch the neo-liberal West led by the United States implode under its own weight and debt.

The West may try to goad China into a war as a last ditch attempt to avoid having to pay them back the trillions they're owed, but it will likely backfire on them as it has many times before.

[kiryandil]

Shut it, n00b.

[Mariner]

“We want America First narrative, yes.
That’s why we must fight against the deep-state Kremlin narrative.”

Ludicrous. “America First” doesn’t care what Russia says.

And I see you’re still trying to conflate the attack on Israel with the war in Ukraine.

NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here is buying what you are selling...as you demonstrate with every post your anti American bona fides.

[Chad C. Mulligan]

Chad Is Always Right!

Of course I am, or I wouldn't post.

[Rockingham]

China is also badly in debt, with much of that debt based on unproductive assets like overbuilt infrastructure, empty cities, and dodgy financing by local government entities. In addition, China has an unbalanced demographic profile that is likely to lead to economic decline and social disorder due to an excess of young men with little prospect of marriage. On the whole, China will grow old without becoming rich.

The advantage that the US and the West and its allies have is that their political systems are mature and their economies resilient and productive in ways that the rest of the world is not. One way or another, the debt bomb of the developed nations will be paid down and defused.

[Robert DeLong]

Yeah, I am pretty much the same way. Thanks I’ll look into them all. 🙂👍

[Pelham]

“Read up on Leo Strauss. You’ll see how the terms “neocon” and Straussian fit this cabal of policy influencers”

That’s probably a valid comparison. I didn’t read Strauss himself but I did read debates over his school of thought.

One point that I recall was the charge that Strauss endorsed a gnostic “secret knowledge” theory where the enlightened Straussians were encouraged to manipulate the unenlightened herd. A cabal of philosophical ubermenschen.