Posted on 04/02/2024 6:03:05 PM PDT by Mariner
Yup.
But that’s not what the supporters say or claim.
It’s insane.
The Zeepers go by the idea that t”he narrative is more important than reality”, for public opinion in the West, as well as for the war on the ground in Ukraine.
The narrative, perception, and virtue signals.
The holy triumvirate of certain political types.
Moreover, if China did significant damage to the US, the American public would be furious and out for revenge. As an opening counter-move, China would be stripped of their external assets through US diplomatic, economic, and military action.
From that perspective, China's leadership seems likely to realize that going to war would not improve China's position even if Taiwan were easily taken. As with Germany in 1914, the shrewder choice is to avoid war while continuing to pursue economic and political gains.
“We want America First narrative, yes.”
Right Frenchy, we know where you’re coming from. America First as in first to get militarily involved in the war. Bankrupt our country and get my kids killed first.
I’m not sure that Taiwan is the first concern to China.
I think there could be a lot of unfolding pushes and strategic positioning from China during the next 10 and 20 years.
China now truly exists and has vain dreams and overly ambitious plans of a global scale, they can’t force them yet and they will have setbacks and overreach and sometimes make fools of themselves, but they are here in the 21st century and their quiet days are in their rear view mirror.
China’s leadership is haunted by their country’s history of strong governments eventually declining and being followed by disorder and warring states based on regional subcultures and power centers. Moreover, China’s geographic position is relatively constrained, with even her sea access subject to interdiction and harassment. China may try to press against these limitations, but they will persist and restrain her freedom of action.
Well they are for certain the paradigm for neocon stereotype
Funny how shrill the Nuland/Kagan bloodthirsty, warmongering scum are getting lately. That couldn't be an attempt by those dirtbags to shake more money from American taxpayers and hand it over to their gay-dancing, grifting pet, could it?
LOL! bullchit. The Ukes are running out of men. This was always the likely outcome.
Read up on Leo Strauss
You’ll see how the terms “neocon” and Straussian fit this cabal of policy influencers
The West may try to goad China into a war as a last ditch attempt to avoid having to pay them back the trillions they're owed, but it will likely backfire on them as it has many times before.
Shut it, n00b.
“We want America First narrative, yes.
That’s why we must fight against the deep-state Kremlin narrative.”
Ludicrous. “America First” doesn’t care what Russia says.
And I see you’re still trying to conflate the attack on Israel with the war in Ukraine.
NOBODY, and I mean NOBODY here is buying what you are selling...as you demonstrate with every post your anti American bona fides.
Of course I am, or I wouldn't post.
The advantage that the US and the West and its allies have is that their political systems are mature and their economies resilient and productive in ways that the rest of the world is not. One way or another, the debt bomb of the developed nations will be paid down and defused.
Yeah, I am pretty much the same way. Thanks I’ll look into them all. 🙂👍
“Read up on Leo Strauss. You’ll see how the terms “neocon” and Straussian fit this cabal of policy influencers”
That’s probably a valid comparison. I didn’t read Strauss himself but I did read debates over his school of thought.
One point that I recall was the charge that Strauss endorsed a gnostic “secret knowledge” theory where the enlightened Straussians were encouraged to manipulate the unenlightened herd. A cabal of philosophical ubermenschen.
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