Gen Z has no time for the corporate grind. Are they lazy or smart?

Fox news ^ | 03/09/2024 | Suzanne Venker

[Political Junkie Too]

The children they're not having used to be the retirement plans of their parents.

If they're not protecting their own senior assistance with children, then they need to do it with assets.

-PJ

[RFEngineer]

I’m not a fan of generational generalizations, but unfortunately I am familiar with some folks like this.

Prospering in this mode requires rich parents, patient parents willing to put up with an extended childhood, or some sort of hook into the welfare state.

It’s not a good time to be marking time like this - because the “safety net” is not going to survive in the relatively generous form it has evolved into.

Usually, when these folks get into the corporate world, they think they should be CEO or at least in very senior roles. Once they see that it actually takes hard work over an extended period of time - then it becomes “soul sucking” and a some (usually lacking talent or drive) just give up.

Many Z-ers are successful in many environments.

Working in a small enterprise or opening your own business is likely a lot more work than these lie-abouts are ready to consider.

Many will discover showing up and working is directly related to having something to eat. It won’t be a pretty site.

[TheWriterTX]

Not true.

My eldest just got a job at a law firm. He was only there a month when he got his first recognition award by the company for performance. He substantially outperformed the middle aged woman who held the position before him, getting work done accurately in half the time.

He arrives early, leaves only when his duties for the day are done, is smart, conscientious, and eager to learn.

My middle child is always getting called in for extra shifts and closings because he does a thorough job, every time. The opening managers never complain when my child closes the night before.

My daughter in law is also called in for extra shifts at the hospital. She is in college to be a RN.

It all depends on how they are raised.

[No.6]

Both, silly. The smart ones find a way to reach their goals other than “I must join a top company and do whatever is needed to advance to level X and then X+1.”

The lazy ones see an excuse to achieve their goal, which is doing nothing.

Most of the article, though, seems to be about people returning to the traditional family, which is not ‘lazy’ at all nor self-servingly ‘smart’ but wise. As long as they stick with it and don’t run off to therapists and family court when they get an itch for the materialist life.

[EEGator]

The ones I hear about aren’t prospering, they just don’t give a damn.
These aren’t rich kids with a 7 series BMW.
They just stay home and game.

The guys on my team at work are solid, but it’s engineering.
Also only N=5.

[citizen]

I can’t specify how, but I suspect a large part of what’s wrong with corporate America has to do with debt. National, state, corporate, banking, personal. All have too much debt and dealing with it is sucking up wealth & energies that should be directed to sensible, profitable endeavors.

[HIDEK6]

I allowed for the exception in my post.

[T.B. Yoits]

If they're not protecting their own senior assistance with children, then they need to do it with assets.

You're assuming they intend to protect their own senior assistance. They know they're targets. Just look at what New York Governor "Nursing Home Killer" Cuomo did.

[Republican Wildcat]

I’d be happy if it actually was 9 to 5 and not “work as long as you have to until it is all done”

[ronnie raygun]

“you will be happy and own nothing” is the globalists advertisement in Europe

[Jimmy Valentine]

You are right, it is a new world and many of us aging Boomers don’t get it. But the future will as always belong to those who will roll up their sleeves and find something that piques their interest.

[MayflowerMadam]

“traditional 9 to 5 jobs are “soul-sucking,”

As if this is something new, and it took research in the 21st Century to conclude that. In the ‘70s most of us realized 9-to-5 jobs are soul sucking. Still, you got up at 6, showered, put on makeup and panty hose, drove to the soul-sucking job, and went home after 9 hours. It’s how you could afford to live your life.

[Tolerance Sucks Rocks]

I have a good job. The “soul-sucking” part about it is the compensation. That compensation would have been comfortable, if not great, a few years ago, but now it’s “just barely getting by”, thanks in part to Joetato and his Democrat and GOP collaborators in Congress.

And don’t worry, I’m seeking extra work to support myself, so I’m not playing “victim” here.

[EQAndyBuzz]

“But in the end they will pay for their actions with lower lifetime earnings.”

They will go back to being housewives and taking care of the bread winner and the family.

[Sirius Lee]

9 to 5 jobs are "soul-sucking,"

It's true. And they don't normally pay that well. You're much better off starting your own businesses, even if you fail once or twice along the way. And the hours are often 6am to midnight, but when it's your business, it's like your baby. Very rewarding when you finally see it to success.

[fuzzylogic]

After having been convinced that they must be a “strong independent woman” and that they’re a “10 out of 10”, deserving of the best 1% of men, the result is a generation of women that believe they’re too good for the average man. Men our checking out of dating.

The natural result would seem to be women that are now REQUIRED to work, to support themselves, in an environment that isn’t favorable - the average job for young people not matching the levels of inflation that we’ve seen. ...only to learn the hard reality - most jobs suck. It isn’t glamorous, it’s a grind. The kind of grind that men are willing to do to support a family. These women have no motivation to do this.

Just another result of feminism.

[EEGator]

I am in agreement.

[Theoria]

They are bothered, that's why they aren't playing the same game of past generations. Why would you bust your ass day after day for past promises that you will never receive? Work in today's environment competing against massive legal and illegal immigrants, outsourced work, very high housing and living costs. At the same time your taxes go to non Americans all over the world, say to foreign countries.

Gen x, y, z are left holding the largest debt bombs in the history of the world and the prior gens can only snicker and laugh at their situations while enjoying their variants of socialism and entitlements.

[daniel1212]

” social media, a largely female space,” That makes sense, from what I see of the faces glued...

I see this and more as another of the contraception effects. For almost all of human history, sexual relations were btwn men and women and resulted in the God-given natural result of children, and with the female giving birth which she is uniquely suited to do, almost always in marriage, which is to provide the stable, secure environment for relations and which children need, and with the mother being engaged in mothering, which she also is uniquely suited for, but in union with, and in support of her husband, who supports her.

And which often resulted in "unplanned" pregnancies (the only way to prevent this being to "plan" sexual relations) and having children one "could not afford," which along with interfering with the women's life, education and or career is one of the reasons women give for aborting children, and which would apply to preventing pregnancies.

But which overall usually meant that children learned going without things, even before all that is typical for kids today, and thus learned delayed gratification, and also how to relate to and or deal with other persons, and with retreat to one's room, which usually was shared, was to read a book.

Today, the average birth rate is 1.6 children (https://www.vox.com/23971366/declining-birth-rate-fertility-babies-children), and since that includes all ethnicities, then it would be less among while liberals, and the average age of a women's first birth being age 30 (https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/health/2022/07/26/median-age-for-new-moms-rises-to-30-in-u-s-), and are raised in an environment of an unprecedented high standard of living.

Meanwhile, with the contraception recourse also comes rampant fornication, and with results that contraception is supposed to prevent, that of fatherless children.

All of which on one hand can be linked to the rise of a culture of selfish, intolerant protest-prone children in "secular seminaries" of immersing them in the waters of wokeism, and with liberal men and women in power promoting such wokeducation and policies, and welfare, and punishing dissidents.

Female lawmakers lead the 120 members of Congress (https://campaignforchildren.org/news/press-release/female-lawmakers-lead-the-120-members-of-congress-who-put-children-first-new-scorecard-says) But "less than 7 percent of members of Congress are mothers with minor children." (https://pettersen.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=258)

Meanwhile, with the contraception recourse also comes rampant fornication, and with results that contraception is supposed to prevent, that of fatherless children. Resulting in (besides one out of 3 pregnancies resulting in murder) about 1 in 4 US children being in an "officially" fatherless household, with about 80% of single-parent homes being led by single mothers (which is much due to welfare advantages) and with children from single-parent families being twice as likely to suffer from mental health and behavioral problems as those living with married parents, and thus more likely to be in state operated facilities. (https://americafirstpolicy.com/issues/issue-brief-fatherlessness-and-its-effects-on-american-society)

Now how much different would this be if a norm men and women saw the natural result of sexual relations, that of children, and larger families, learning to share, work, and develop the manner of enduring character such as that enabled them to fight WW2 on its terms, which we could not do today, aside from the decimation of industrial base?

All of which is an indirect result of the decline of strong Christian faith, failing the test of prosperity.

And note that this is not an attack on being single itself, as being chaste and single is a Biblical option, but my critique refers to a normative society.

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[DouglasKC]

Most of them (especially females) think they are going to be able to get rich making youtube videos and having sex on onlyfans. Making good youtube videos is time consuming and can be expensive so the irony is that they will work very hard. But more power to them on this.

i admire Mr. Beast. The guy is a beast. Not afraid to work hard. Not afraid to take chances. Savvy and smart.