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Rivian puts plans for $5B Georgia plant on hold
WSBTV2 ^ | 3/8/24 | staff

Posted on 03/08/2024 1:44:37 AM PST by CFW

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To: Pontiac
try this one:

New Link

If that doesn't work, I give up.

21 posted on 03/08/2024 4:42:14 AM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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To: cymbeline
Analyze Nvidia and Taiwan Semiconductor Manufacturing Company and why new data centers are being built so fast (Nvidia is the cutting-edge AI chip designer and TSMC is their primary fabricator).

And see my tagline.

As an aside, AI may be the normal or natural progression of computer software and hardware, as you say. But it also represents a quantum leap in the progression of such.

As an aside, there are things about the way that large language models/machine learning systems behave when trained on massive amounts of data that their designers/builders/scientists don't understand ("the black box effect").

22 posted on 03/08/2024 4:49:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: cymbeline
My opinion until someone changes it

Changing (adapting, growing) your opinion is your responsibility. Not someone else's.

23 posted on 03/08/2024 4:51:01 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Tesla vehicles are AI devices. The Tesla AI chips are the best in the business


24 posted on 03/08/2024 4:51:56 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: bert
We don't know just how Tesla's chips compare with Nvidia's because so far their application is almost entirely Tesla cars and robots. There's no way to compare them to Nvidia's chips because they are directed at different markets and uses.

That said, Tesla's chips are right up there with the best. No doubt about that.

The difference between Tesla and Nvidia is that Nvidia is a chip company. Tesla isn't...at least not yet.

25 posted on 03/08/2024 4:59:40 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

I understand your thought and will state that I am not qualified to make a valid determination.

I’m putting forth the judgement of Sandy Monroe and his engineering company who has torn Tesla stuff apart and tested it extensively before making the judgement.


26 posted on 03/08/2024 5:11:25 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: CFW

Thanks that worked.


27 posted on 03/08/2024 5:15:33 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: MayflowerMadam
A couple weeks ago, someone here posted that EVs are this century’s Edsel.

The Big difference between the Edsel and EV’s is that there was nothing wrong with the engineering or functionality of the Edsel.

The biggest problems of Edsel was that it was a high end car introduced during a deep economic down turn.

It was also introduced during a time when Henry Ford was unpopular (the Press had turned against him) and it was considered poor form that he named a car after his son.

My view of history for what it’s worth.

28 posted on 03/08/2024 5:36:01 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: bert
I agree. I think Tesla makes incredibly good products.

I wish Tesla would branch out into into the "chips for the public market" business (instead of just using them internally). Tesla is apparently sitting on the some of the best technology in the world.

29 posted on 03/08/2024 6:07:48 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“But it also represents a quantum leap”

Seriously, what is the quantum leap other than the rapid reduction in cost of data storage? Processor speed is not quantumly leaping.

“there are things about the way that large language models/machine learning systems behave when trained on massive amounts of data that their designers/builders/scientists don’t understand”

A computer romping through a bunch of data has always been able to produce unpredicted results, such as the surprising number of purple pigs. Nothing new here.

Speech and facial recognition are kind of new and impactful to the general public, but they’re nothing more than a pile of C++ code and the data it ploughs through.


30 posted on 03/08/2024 6:17:30 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: cymbeline
A computer romping through a bunch of data has always been able to produce unpredicted results, such as the surprising number of purple pigs. Nothing new here.

LOL. Yep. That's what AI is. Just computers romping through a bunch of data.

Again, see tagline.

31 posted on 03/08/2024 6:47:19 AM PST by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a closed mind will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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To: RoosterRedux

“Just computers romping through a bunch of data. Again, see tagline.”

Your tagline is not in your reply so perhaps you can put it into a reply to this reply.

Here are some true “quantum leaps”: the transistor, the laser and optical data transmission, large scale integration, the harnessing of nuclear fission (and fusion for bombs), the wheel, and, of course, the discovery of the quantum nature of matter/energy.

Nothing quantum-leapy about juggling piles of computer hardware and software.

Perhaps a quantum leap in software was the introduction of high level, computer-independent programming languages.

Perhaps a quantum leap within programming languages was going from 6 character upper case names to longer ones, but maybe that was a backward leap.


32 posted on 03/08/2024 7:04:29 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: Alberta's Child

I know all that, but that does not address the big picture. I’ve spent the last 50+ years living in the Detroit area and grew up in an auto family...you know how many millions of sq/ft of empty auto production facilities there are around here? For free? Ford ‘Blue Oval’ just cancelled it’s new battery factory here too a couple months ago.

When one looks behind the scenes it’s obvious, the Chicoms have pulled out of many of these ‘joint projects’ lately combined with falling sales and it’s only to get worse. And unions and the coming fights. And taxes upon taxes, the inability for a steady supply of rare earths that the Chicoms own, the list is endless.

Plus bankruptcy isn’t far away either if the past is any indication (that could be the real reason) and Rivian will get a better price whether liquid or not so there’s that.

And that doesn’t include subsidies from the local county, city, state, or feds so behind the scenes the corruption is not going as planned. Maybe Biden’s cronies decided not to hand over millions they extorted from the falsely named ‘Inflation Reduction Act’ and the list goes on and on.


33 posted on 03/08/2024 8:14:46 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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To: CFW

There’s NO MAINSTREAM FUTURE to these products.


34 posted on 03/08/2024 2:50:33 PM PST by HKMk23 (https://youtu.be/LTseTg48568)
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