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Did Truman Say of the Creation of Israel, 'We Took Palestine in Small Doses'?
Snopes ^ | Nov 8 2023 | Aleksandra Wrona

Posted on 03/04/2024 1:46:39 PM PST by euram

We had several other people in the country, even among the Jews, Zionists, particularly, who were against anything that has to be done if they couldn't have the whole of Palestine, everything, handed to them on a silver plate, so they wouldn't have to do anything; it couldn't be done. We had to take it in small doses. You can't move 5 or 6 million people out of a country and fill it up with 5 or 6 million more and expect both sets of them to be pleased.

But don't think that decision to recognize Israel was an easy one. I had to make a compromise with the Arabs and divide Palestine. The Jews wanted to chase all the Arabs in the Tigris and Euphrates River, and the Arabs want to chase all the Jews in the Red Sea, and I was trying. What I was trying to do is, to find a homeland for the Jews and still be just for the Arabs.

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: antisemitism; gaza; israel; palestine; snopes

1 posted on 03/04/2024 1:46:39 PM PST by euram
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To: euram
As far as I'm concerned, Israel is case closed.

All the whining and butt hurt of the savages mean not a whit to me. Israel is God's home for His chosen people.

2 posted on 03/04/2024 2:03:58 PM PST by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: euram

If such a statement was made he wasn’t talking about the same land and the same people. There were not 5 or 6 million Arabs on what is now Israel & Gaza back then. And there were not 5 or 6 million Jews wanting to move in.

He may have been referring to the British Palestine Mandate, which includes what is now Jordan, to arrive at such numbers of people. In that case maybe there were were 5 or 6 million Arabs but most of them became Jordanians when the Palestine was divided the first time.

The next division of land had to do with the territory west of the Jordan river and there were not 5 million people coming or going. So whatever this is talking about, keep it at least contextually correct.


3 posted on 03/04/2024 2:53:41 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: euram

It’s Snopes- “Hello!” they lied.


4 posted on 03/04/2024 3:04:48 PM PST by Buckeye Battle Cry (Progressivism is socialism. Venezuela is how it ends.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie; euram
As far as I'm concerned, Israel is case closed. . All the whining and butt hurt of the savages mean not a whit to me. Israel is God's home for His chosen people.

But "euram" hates Jews, and for him it will never be case closed. Pretty much all he has ever done on this forum is lash out at Jews and Israel.

5 posted on 03/04/2024 4:00:38 PM PST by montag813
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To: euram
So after having your thread with its anti-Semitic link shutdown you still think you have found a home on this pro-God forum for your liberal Hamas anti-Christ support of Hamas which wants Israel in the sea?

The United Nations Partition Plan for Palestine provided for only 62% of the land allocated to the Jewish state," [while] The land allocated to the Arab State in the final plan included about 43% of Mandatory Palestine and consisted of all of the highlands, except for Jerusalem, plus one-third of the coastline. The highlands contain the major aquifers of Palestine, which supplied water to the coastal cities of central Palestine, including Tel Aviv. The Jewish State allocated to the Jews, who constituted a third of the population and owned about 7% of the land, was to receive 56% of Mandatory Palestine, a slightly larger area to accommodate the increasing numbers of Jews who would immigrate there. The Jewish State included three fertile lowland plains – the Sharon on the coast, the Jezreel Valley and the upper Jordan Valley. The bulk of the proposed Jewish State's territory, however, consisted of the Negev Desert,[56] which was not suitable for agriculture, nor for urban development at that time. The Jewish State would also be given sole access to the Sea of Galilee, crucial for its water supply, and the economically important Red Sea.

"the proposed Arab State would include the central and part of western Galilee, with the town of Acre, the hill country of Samaria and Judea, an enclave at Jaffa, and the southern coast stretching from north of Isdud (now Ashdod) and encompassing what is now the Gaza Strip, with a section of desert along the Egyptian border. " "According to the plan, Jews and Arabs living in the Jewish state would become citizens of the Jewish state and Jews and Arabs living in the Arab state would become citizens of the Arab state."

By virtue of Chapter 3, Palestinian citizens residing in Palestine outside the City of Jerusalem, as well as Arabs and Jews who, not holding Palestinian citizenship, resided in Palestine outside the City of Jerusalem would, upon the recognition of independence, become citizens of the State in which they were resident and enjoy full civil and political rights.

Arab leaders and governments rejected the plan of partition in the resolution and indicated that they would reject any other plan of partition.[9] The Arab states' delegations declared immediately after the vote for partition that they would not be bound by the decision, and walked out accompanied by the Indian and Pakistani delegates.[116]...n 16 February 1948, the UN Palestine Commission reported to the Security Council that: "Powerful Arab interests, both inside and outside Palestine, are defying the resolution of the General Assembly and are engaged in a deliberate effort to alter by force the settlement envisaged therein."

Azzam told Alec Kirkbride "We will sweep them [the Jews] into the sea." Syrian president Shukri al-Quwatli told his people: "We shall eradicate Zionism."[121] King Farouk of Egypt told the American ambassador to Egypt that in the long run the Arabs would soundly defeat the Jews and drive them out of Palestine.[ - https://en.wikipedia.org

What the Left charges is that Israel is an illegal occupier (which seems to at least be inferred by the two-state advocates, including Putin), yet there never was a Palestinian state, and the Jews regaining their homeland was a result of being conquered by "occupiers," and who (from what I see) themselves were conquered (due to disobedience to God) , and thru a succession of which the Jewish state by born within their homeland, yet there remaineth yet more land to be possessed from present occupants.


Palestinian Arab nationalism is largely a post-World War I phenomenon that did not become a significant political movement until after the 1967 Six-Day War and Israel's capture of the West Bank. - https://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jewish-claim-to-the-land-of-israel

"This map [below] shows modern Israel compared to what ancient Israel actually looked like at some point. The land God called Joshua to take was much larger."

"The big difference is that the West Bank, as well as the eastern side of the Jordan River, is not part of modern Israel."




Source: https://www.quora.com/How-does-modern-day-Israel-compare-to-the-conquered-lands-as-described-in-the-book-of-Joshua-Old-Testament/answer Steve-Page-96

For many more maps: http://www.jewishwikipedia.info/israelmaps.html

Map below showing the status of Israel and the Israeli-occupied territories as of 2018:



The Jews regaining much of their ancient homeland and and statehood after approx 2500 years of not possessing it, losing it to different conquers/occupiers, and with dispersals, is unique, and providential, glory to God who shall yet manifestly answer this question:

6 posted on 03/04/2024 5:43:52 PM PST by daniel1212 (Turn 2 the Lord Jesus who saves damned+destitute sinners on His acct, believe, b baptized+follow HIM)
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To: euram; moder_ator; _Jim

Why is anything from snopes even allowed to be posted here?

There was a time not many years ago when Jim would not allow anything from this site to be posted here.

This site was created in the late “90”s by the Clintons to specifically deny the truth in order to defend the Clintons on their whitewater troubles and then kept around to be used as a political indoctrination place by creating lies about the enemies of the left?


7 posted on 03/04/2024 7:14:54 PM PST by OneVike ( Just another Christian waiting to go home)
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