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To: Red6

Wasn’t it Trump who left ballistic treaty, Minsk has nothing to do with NATO expansion, Tucker interview was horrible, and his grocery thing left out a ton of content

As to better off, ask putin about that


63 posted on 02/22/2024 1:52:57 PM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128

1. Minsk was an German/French effort at true peace. You’re not going to have that if outside forces keep pouring more and more military advisors, mercenaries, weapons and money into Ukraine, if we fuel some of the most radical fringes in that country. While we were no signator to this agreement, we were in violation of it, and it showed our true intentions. We created a powder keg.

2. It was under Bush W. That we withdrew from the Ballistic Missile Treaty: https://www.armscontrol.org/act/2002-07/news/us-withdraws-abm-treaty-global-response-muted.

That can actually somewhat be justified. Missile defense was tied to this. But nonetheless it plays a role today because we want to bring Ukraine into a military alliance.

3. Tuckers interview was the first time where the Russian perspective was presented post war begin. Even before the war, the Russian perspective was muted, censored (RT etc)... There are always two sides to a story, and in reality if you only hear one side, you should be asking yourself why that is?!?!?

4. Trump armed and financially backed Ukraine. All that was fine in so far that he was creating a cost for true Russian aggression. But when we pushed NATO under Biden, all that changed. At that point, Russia has the concern of NATO forces, nuclear, and missile defense systems being set up in Ukraine. Not something they will tolerate.

***But as to you not answering.***

The answer is obvious:

—Ukraine is worse off.

—In fact, we are worse off.

And as to providing a sound/viable national security argument for why we had to cause this war, you can’t do that either.


65 posted on 02/22/2024 2:41:34 PM PST by Red6
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