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THIS CANNOT STAND!
1 posted on 02/21/2024 9:52:15 AM PST by Rummyfan
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This is so illegal.


2 posted on 02/21/2024 9:53:14 AM PST by DouglasKC
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Absolute tyranny!


3 posted on 02/21/2024 9:54:18 AM PST by Aria
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“Kathy Hochul Reassures Them By Admitting This Law Will be Applied to Trump Only and No One Else”
I’m not a lawyer but this doesn’t sound right.


5 posted on 02/21/2024 9:56:52 AM PST by uptowngirl
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Oscar Wilde wrote that "moderation is a fatal thing. Nothing succeeds like excess." Justice Arthur Engoron took that line to heart with his absurd imposition of $455 million in fines and interest against Donald Trump and his corporation. The fine is $355 million, but he slapped on an extra, and very round figure of $100 million, for "interest."

You can tell he really ran the interest calculations to the seventh decimal by how incredibly round the number came out.

It succeeded wonderfully with New Yorkers, who celebrated the verdict like a popular public execution. It also worked wonderfully to make it difficult to appeal. Much of the criticism of the decision focused on the unprecedented use of the law and the excessive size of the fine. The New York statute has been on the books for decades and has always been something of an anomaly in not requiring an actual victim or loss to justify disgorgement or fines.

Even the New York Times agreed that it could not find a single case in history where this statute was used against an individual or a company that did not commit a criminal offense, go bankrupt, or leave financial victims.

Engoron then combined that unprecedented application with an equally extraordinary penalty, which is greater than the gross national product of some countries.

6 posted on 02/21/2024 9:57:22 AM PST by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.)
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Won’t happen to anyone else but Trump, BS. If you are a Republican doing business in NY, you had better wrap it up and get out. If you think they won’t come after you too, you’re crazy.


8 posted on 02/21/2024 9:57:50 AM PST by Dave911
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Part of me wants the verdict to stand.

Every business owner in New York has been put on notice that the State of New York considers itself a party to every financial transaction in the state — and one that will aggressively pursue civil cases as an “injured” party even if no harm can be shown.

The organized crime world couldn’t have asked for a better incentive for businesses and their customers to operate entirely in a black market underground economy.

10 posted on 02/21/2024 9:58:12 AM PST by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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Basically the ruling is, you have to be part of the Democrat machine or we ruin you.

You’d have to be insane to do business in NYC.


12 posted on 02/21/2024 10:00:52 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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Sorry to tell you, folks - WE are the marxists now.

the globohomo Comintern is in Washington DC


13 posted on 02/21/2024 10:01:41 AM PST by PGR88
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This lawfare actually threatens every business in the State of NY, big or small.

No savvy business will remain there.

They aimed for Trump, hurt him and blew up the whole state.

I will never set foot there again and will avoid transacting with any enterprise there. Too dangerous.


15 posted on 02/21/2024 10:05:50 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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Courts have adopted a three-part test to determine if a law functions as a bill of attainder:

1.The law inflicts punishment.
2.The law targets specific named or identifiable individuals or groups.
3.Those individuals or groups would otherwise have judicial protections.


16 posted on 02/21/2024 10:08:09 AM PST by FroggyTheGremlim (Plunk your magic twanger, Froggy!)
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Banks use their own assessors for property.
IF the value was inflated, and Trump paid tax assessed on the higher value THEN he is OWED money in return based pff an overpayment of tax.
And further, why isn’t Lettucia going after the bank because the assessor would be guilty of conspiracy.
The answer is: no actual crime happened.


17 posted on 02/21/2024 10:11:23 AM PST by Darksheare (Those who support liberal "Republicans" summarily support every action by same. )
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Their hate for Trump has consumed them. It will be their ultimate downfall and they won’t understand why.


18 posted on 02/21/2024 10:20:28 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Hopefully sanity will prevail and the precedent will be turned over.


19 posted on 02/21/2024 10:23:36 AM PST by Chgogal (Welcome to Fuhrer Biden's Weaponized Fascist Banana Republic! It's the road to hell.)
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Wear MAGA hat, find yourself in court.


20 posted on 02/21/2024 10:24:34 AM PST by Huskrrrr (Alinsky, you magnificent Bastard, I read your book!)
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“THIS CANNOT STAND!”

Eighth Amendment of the U.S. Constitution:
Excessive bail shall not be required, nor excessive fines imposed, nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

Suck on THAT NYC commies.


22 posted on 02/21/2024 10:37:17 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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"...Could Threaten Every Big Business In New York..."

It WILL NOT and CANNOT be contained in New York. It sets the precedent and template for using lawfare to destroy politicians in the Blue States all over the country.

We always think "this bad idea can be contained to California. Or New York. Or universities." But the bad ideas ALWAYS spill out of their confines and get adopted all over the place.

23 posted on 02/21/2024 10:37:56 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Good God, this is staggering and beggars disbelief. Those bastards set it up so Trump has to pay the full fine or post a bond to contest the ruling, then made it impossible for Trump to get a loan to post that bond. In other words, they are denying him appeal rights, all through a Bill of Attainder.

If they succeed at this lawfare, it will spill out of NYS to other blue states. NYS is chumming the lawfare waters and the sharks are circling. This could truly be the end of the Republic.

Why aren’t our putative “Republicans” in Congress and statehouses screaming about this egregious and outrageous scheme and the dire threat it poses to ALL of us?


26 posted on 02/21/2024 10:45:41 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Unfortunately a business backlash would be slow and occur under the radar. If a big firm like Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan said we’re out of here, that would have an impact.


27 posted on 02/21/2024 10:54:21 AM PST by DeplorablePaul (ll)
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In other words, Engoron has both levied an excessive fine against Trump, while simultaneously forbidding him from obtaining enough in loans to pay for the bond to protest the excessive fine.

SCOTUS - Where are you?

29 posted on 02/21/2024 11:04:02 AM PST by sauropod (Ne supra crepidam.)
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COULD threaten? No - DOES threaten!!


31 posted on 02/21/2024 11:05:20 AM PST by MortMan (No matter where you go, there you are!)
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