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Man freed from Pa. prison after 1984 murder conviction is overturned
PENN LIVE ^ | Feb. 06, 2024

Posted on 02/18/2024 3:19:03 PM PST by nickcarraway

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1 posted on 02/18/2024 3:19:03 PM PST by nickcarraway
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Harold Staten wrongful conviction arson
Harold Staten wrongful conviction arson
2 posted on 02/18/2024 3:28:36 PM PST by Robert DeLong
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To: nickcarraway

What office was he running for in an election in 1984?


3 posted on 02/18/2024 3:43:05 PM PST by DOC44 ( )
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Translation: He is guilty.


4 posted on 02/18/2024 3:54:00 PM PST by bort
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Being in prison for all those years - it may be the reason he lived so long.
I hope he enjoys retirement, and stays out of trouble.


5 posted on 02/18/2024 4:00:42 PM PST by Honest Nigerian
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Shapiro said he wants to empty the prisons, just in time for them to vote.

Now you know the rest of the story.


6 posted on 02/18/2024 4:09:21 PM PST by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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To: nickcarraway

From the article:

“District Attorney Larry Krasner said in a statement that “due to the passage of time, we unfortunately may never know how the fire began that killed Charles Harris nearly four decades ago.”

I don’t like 30 and 40 year old rapes charges, and I don’t like rehashing 30 and 40 year old convictions. You can’t retry a case when half the witnesses are dead, the memory of others is hazy, evidence has been lost or deteriorated, etc.
A lot of these cases appear to me to just sow enough doubt to get the person freed, not really prove their innocence.


7 posted on 02/18/2024 4:10:34 PM PST by suthener ( )
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“””A man has been freed after spending nearly four decades in prison on a murder conviction in a 1984 Philadelphia fire attributed to arson under standards that prosecutors said would not support a conviction today.”””


Under today’s prosecutor standards he would not have been tried.


8 posted on 02/18/2024 4:15:14 PM PST by Presbyterian Reporter
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Philadelphia - Black defendant

New Soros prosecutor?

The Pennsylvania Innocence Project re-opened the case.

The Innocence Project has never freed an innocent man.

The Innocence Project only creates Reasonable Doubt - decades after the original trial.

No Police Officer or State Attorney that was involved in the original prosecution EVER contradicts the The Innocence Project, because of civil lawsuit risk.

9 posted on 02/18/2024 4:21:18 PM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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>>not really prove their innocences.

Years ago in Texas, man was convicted of Capital Murder (late 80’s?)from a “arson” fire death and if I recall correctly, he was executed.

The fire investigator listed his findings that a accelerant was used to start the fire and further identified the accelerant as gasoline that covered the floor of the entire house.

Years later, another investigator and lab determined what had been found was leaded gasoline that been outlawed during mid 1970’s.

It was also determined that the leaded gasoline had been used as a thinner for the varnish used to finish the floors sometime in the late 1960’s.

10 posted on 02/18/2024 4:50:32 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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To: suthener
Yeah. Exactly.

One story doesn't tell the complete story.

And Krasner, one of Soreass's top "woke" DA's is involved.

11 posted on 02/18/2024 5:18:09 PM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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The Innocence Project has never freed an innocent man.

Reminds me of the Central Park Five. None of them were innocent by any stretch of the imagination. All that was done was finding some small example of police misconduct (for example, holding an interview based on the kid's admitted age vs. actual age) and sewing outrage and doubt among woke a##h###s 35 years later.

12 posted on 02/18/2024 5:32:11 PM PST by PGR88
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Was he innocent, or they just don’t have enough to convict?


13 posted on 02/18/2024 6:22:03 PM PST by Fido969
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Ping.


14 posted on 02/18/2024 6:27:38 PM PST by Carriage Hill (A society grows great when old men plant trees, in whose shade they know they will never sit.)
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“Years ago in Texas, man was convicted of Capital Murder (late 80’s?)from a “arson” fire death and if I recall correctly, he was executed.”

Two labs had different opinions of what started the fire. Does that prove innocence? You think there might have been other evidence that he did it like motive, witnesses, false alibis, etc.? One fact disputed years later does not prove innocence.


15 posted on 02/18/2024 6:46:22 PM PST by suthener ( )
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>>Two labs had different opinions of what started the fire.

Negative.

First investigator claimed a gasoline accelerant was used.

Second lab found fact that gasoline was not used due lead being found in the residue of the varnish.

16 posted on 02/18/2024 7:14:16 PM PST by Deaf Smith (When a Texan takes his chances, chances will be taken that's for sure.)
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Only one died? Mayor Goode’s record is safe.


17 posted on 02/18/2024 7:17:06 PM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: suthener

When did proving innocence become a requirement for the defense?


18 posted on 02/18/2024 7:35:05 PM PST by Kathy in OC
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To: fatima; Fresh Wind; st.eqed; xsmommy; House Atreides; Nowhere Man; PaulZe; brityank; Physicist; ...

Pennsylvania Ping!

Please ping me with articles of interest.

FReepmail me to be added to the list.

19 posted on 02/18/2024 8:16:26 PM PST by lightman (I am a binary Trinitarian. Deal with it!)
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You may be thinking of the Camiolo case in Pennsylvania in 1996. Lead was found in the hardwood floor, but not in the carpet covering the floor. How could someone pour gasoline, the apparent source of the lead, on the floor and it not be in the carpet?

The prosecution, after its own tests confirmed the defense’s accident theory, dropped the charges.


20 posted on 02/18/2024 10:37:40 PM PST by Mr Information
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