Perhaps this one could be convinced to cease with his Nicolle Wallace imitation for the duration. 
Posted on 02/18/2024 5:45:14 AM PST by devane617
New York Gov. Kathy Hochul (D) addressed New York business owners in a new interview and told them there was “nothing to worry about” after former President Trump was hit with a $355 million fine and the inability to conduct business in New York for three years.
Hochul joined John Catsimatidis on “The Cats Roundtable” on WABC 770 AM where she was asked if other New York businesspeople should be worried that if “they can do that to the former president, they can do that to anybody.”
“I think that this is really an extraordinary unusual circumstance that the law-abiding and rule-following New Yorkers who are business people have nothing to worry about because they’re very different than Donald Trump and his behavior,” Hochul responded.
A New York judge on Friday ordered Trump to pay the massive sum in penalties in a civil fraud case. The decision came just weeks after closing arguments wrapped up a months-long trial after New York Attorney General Letitia James (D) sued Trump for alleging he falsely altered his net worth to receive tax and insurance benefits.
(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...
Im fine because he benefitted from cooked up financial records. Why aren’t you?
If you know what I mean...
You're fine because you're a Democrat political operative who lies about this issue to advance your agenda - despite the voluminous rebuttals from woodpusher and Political Junkie Too.
That’s fine with me. I’m glad you brought Laz back into the mix. He doing better?
When did you move from Virginia?
Wow, you are all over the map on this one.
You reference a thread in which I do not even appear.
You claim 'an operative has a link', whatever that is supposed to mean.
Further, I don't think I ever said that "only operatives use the word 'disinformation'."
Perhaps enough people are getting tired of your liberal Democrat ways that you are confusing people. You are building enemies by the day, I'm noticing.
I may just start calling for your outright banning, and this time, I may succeed.
To the moderators, take a close look at this guy. While he may be a long timer, he also serves to be nothing more than an anti-Trump troll. He embraces every media malfeasance against Trump (such as supporting the media misdirection of the term 'bombshell'); he embraces every prosecution malfeasance against Trump; he defends every opponent of Trump (both political and legal).
Our forum deserves better. Donald Trump deserves better.
In time, you may wish that I stopped ignoring you.
Perhaps this one could be convinced to cease with his Nicolle Wallace imitation for the duration.
What did I say? The FBI visited twice and Trump cooperated. They came to interview Trump and he cooperated. They came a second time and Trump turned over documents. They also asked him to strengthen his security and he complied.
Thirty minutes ago you didn't even know about the two FBI visits and now you're hurling accusations at me?
What you cited was the Trump team negotiating with the National Archives, not the FBI. You already know that the National Archives has no authority to classify document or to police the classification of documents.
Why couldn't you just say "Thank you for the information. I did not know about the two prior FBI visits."
But no, you had to try to poke me with NARA as if they had any authority over the President's actions and predated Trump's cooperation with the FBI.
-PJ
Perhaps this is an option for 'joesbucks', but as you pointed out, this member tends to attack not only Trump, but ANY conservative politician, throughout his tenure here. Thus, he may just be a slightly-more-sophisticated version of a Liberal Troll.
Please show those links you compiled for the Admin's perusal.
I knew about the fbi visits. My question was why 2 and why that wasn’t all the files?
Apology. It was a kiryandil thread.
Virginia is a pretty diverse state. The southern & rural areas are deep red. Of course get toward the rural mountains and snake handling isn’t unheard of.
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652/gov.uscourts.flsd.648652.407.0.pdf
Case 9:23-cr-80101-AMC Document 407 Entered on FLSD Docket 03/18/2024
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UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT
SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF FLORIDA
WEST PALM BEACH DIVISION
CASE NO. 23-80101-CR-CANNON
UNITED STATES OF AMERICA,
Plaintiff,
v.
DONALD J. TRUMP,
WALTINE NAUTA, and
CARLOS DE OLIVEIRA,
Defendants.
_________________________/
ORDER REQUIRING PRELIMINARY PROPOSED JURY INSTRUCTIONS AND VERDICT FORMS ON COUNTS 1–32 ONLY
On or before April 2, 2024, Defendant Trump and the Special Counsel each shall file proposed jury instructions limited to the essential elements of the offenses charged in Counts 1 through 32 of the Superseding Indictment [ECF No. 85], along with proposed verdict forms forthose counts (general or special).1 Moreover, understanding that juries are judges of the facts, not the law, the proposals shall take care to specify (in incorporated briefing as necessary) exactly what factual questions are reserved for the jury on Counts 1 through 32 in light of the recently argued motions to dismiss [ECF Nos. 325, 327].2 With respect to the proposed language pertinent to the issue of “unauthorized possession” specifically, the parties must engage with the following
____________________________________
1 Instructions beyond the substantive contours of Counts 1 through 32 are not part of this Order, contained. The standard twenty-page limit for memoranda of law does not apply to the ordered submissions.
2 Deadline for final proposed jury instructions and verdict forms to be set by separate order
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Case 9:23-cr-80101-AMC Document 407 Entered on FLSD Docket 03/18/2024
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CASE NO. 23-80101-CR-CANNON
competing scenarios and offer alternative draft text that assumes each scenario to be a correct formulation of the law to be issued to the jury, while reserving counterarguments.
(a) In a prosecution of a former president for allegedly retaining documents in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 793(e), a jury is permitted to examine a record retained by a former president in his/her personal possession at the end of his/her presidency and make a factual finding as to whether the government has proven beyond a reasonable doubt that it is personal or presidential using the definitions set forth in the Presidential Records Act (PRA).3
(b) A president has sole authority under the PRA to categorize records as personal or presidential during his/her presidency. Neither a court nor a jury is permitted to make or review such a categorization decision. Although there is no formal means in the PRA by which a president is to make that categorization, an outgoing president’s decision to exclude what he/she considers to be personal records from presidential records transmitted to the National Archives and Records Administration constitutes a president’s categorization of those records as personal under the PRA.
DONE AND ORDERED in Chambers at Fort Pierce, Florida, this 18th day of March 2024.
/s/
_________________________
AILEEN M. CANNON
UNITED STATES DISTRICT JUDGE
cc: counsel of record
__________________________________
3 Any separation of powers or immunity concerns shall be included in this discussion if relevant.
2
I’m sure he and his team are quite capable of providing a proper reply.
As for "all the documents," that was the dispute, right? President Trump said he had the right to those documents from the Presidential Records Act. Why should he turn anything over just because some FBI agents said so?
-PJ
My point all along is why did it take an FBI visit at all.
Are you saying that NARA has authority over the President? The President wants SCOTUS to define the authority of the Presidential Records Act, not NARA, and is withholding from NARA until SCOTUS rules.
Why do you have a problem with Americans taking advantage of their due process rights?
-PJ
He didn’t do that until after the FBI raid. Remember, it was an easy peasy transfer and he was an open book prior to the raid.
“freeper” joesbucks, in action:
bashing on Sarah Palin, 2010
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2550618/posts?page=9#9
bashing on Rudy Giuliani [July 2023]
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4170730/posts?page=16#16
bashing on Marjorie Taylor Greene [she has pictures of naked Hunter Biden for “sexual purposes”, according to joesbucks, July 2023]
https://freerepublic.com/focus/bloggers/4169118/posts?page=12#12
Bashing on President Trump and Mike Lindell [August 2023]
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4175351/posts?page=16#16
bashing on Lauren Boebert [the theater date “scandal”, September 2023]
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182885/posts?page=37#37
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182885/posts?page=39#39
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182885/posts?page=41#41
Calling Jim Jordan “Gym Jordan” [many times], a favorite Democrat attack, referring to the Strauss scandal at Ohio State.
And of course, “joesbucks” has singled out Kari Lake for his “special attention” more than once.
I also checked, and he’s attacked Michelle Bachmann, Rush Limbaugh, Tom Delay and Newt Gingrich in the past.
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