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Aroostook school district changes course, won’t use finger scanning software to track attendance (but more than 2 million students in 48 states are tracked via use biometrics on daily basis)
Portland Press Herald ^ | February 14, 2024 | Dennis Hoey

Posted on 02/15/2024 4:28:20 AM PST by DoodleBob

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In corporate America, employees have an ID that they swipe to gain access to buildings. HR can use those swipes to track “return to office” progress. Or, they can use it to dispatch Business Continuity messages in the event of a “Shelter In Place” emergency (eg tornado, active shooter).

If Schools REALLY wanted to “take attendance for safety purposes”, they’d give the kids an ID and have them swipe like adults do.

First they came for the children…


1 posted on 02/15/2024 4:28:20 AM PST by DoodleBob
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To: DoodleBob; 6amgelsmama; 100American; AAABEST; aberaussie; AbolishCSEU; AccountantMom; Aggie Mama; ..

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2 posted on 02/15/2024 4:42:16 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob
“The identiMetrics system does not store actual fingerprints but utilizes data solely for identification and attendance tracking within the school environment,” McCall said in her statement.

Sure it doesn't........

3 posted on 02/15/2024 4:43:57 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob

Tempestuous tepottius

The falderal objection is seriously over hyped garbage. There is nothing wrong with the finger ID system and it does not produce fingerprints that could convict Black criminal students.

ID cards can get lost or stolen or presented absent a person.

I have used such a system to gain entry to the Y gym and swimming pool for years.


4 posted on 02/15/2024 4:51:43 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: metmom

It doesn’t. The back door system on the devices do that.
This way they aren’t committing perjury in future court cases…

(Made up but maybe true)


5 posted on 02/15/2024 4:55:02 AM PST by EEGator
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To: EEGator

I KNOW it doesn’t. I never believe a word of it when the government starts using some kind of tracking method and swears up and down that they do not store the data.


6 posted on 02/15/2024 4:57:42 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob

I’m sure the FBI is loving having this database of everybody’s fingerprints for their system.


7 posted on 02/15/2024 5:07:00 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary? Pray for President Biden: Psalm 109:8)
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To: metmom

“Sure it doesn’t........”

I keyed-in on that one too. Where I live, we’re now flooded with Flock License Plate Readers. While they tell us: “Don’t worry, your privacy is safe with us.”, they will fight TOOTH AND NAIL against any laws assuring privacy and then deletion of any data of this type they collect.

While I haven’t heard of any cases, I strongly suspect that many of the Jan 6th tourists denied being in DC that day...and then the feds showed them a picture of their car, with their plate, and asked: “Is this your car...”


8 posted on 02/15/2024 5:13:42 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: bert

Attendance should not garner schools money...successful education should. This is just a ruse.


9 posted on 02/15/2024 6:51:45 AM PST by goodnesswins ( We pretend to vote and they pretend to count the votes.)
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To: DoodleBob

Caribou Maine High School at the far Northeast corner of Maine on the Canadian border has an enrollment of 460 students (down from 520, 10 years ago). Everyone in town knows each other. If a kid skips class, their mom/dad will hear about by dinner time.


10 posted on 02/15/2024 6:53:49 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: DoodleBob

I dare say Dennis Hoey of the Portland Press Herald has never ventured to Caribou Maine.

Disclaimer, I have not been to Caribou since a family camping trip in the mid 1970s.


11 posted on 02/15/2024 6:56:45 AM PST by Steven Scharf
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To: DoodleBob

Those of us who grew up and went to school before computer technology, remember that the teacher used to take attendance, and they would count the number of students in the room, and make note of who is absent.

Why does taking attendance need to be done in a high-tech manner.?

Is this a business opportunity to sell these systems to schools?


12 posted on 02/15/2024 7:14:17 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Dilbert San Diego

and they would count the number of students in the room, and make note of who is absent.


and note this was a relationship, you weren’t a number.


13 posted on 02/15/2024 7:26:34 AM PST by PeterPrinciple (Thinking Caps are no longer being issued but there must be a warehouse full of them somewhere.)
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To: goodnesswins

No, it is certainly not a ruse. Taking the roll has forever been part of going to school.

Granted that education is the reason for schools. The societal need for education is the reason schools exist.

However, allocation of educational funds is currently made by governments on the basis of the number of students being educated at a specific school. For lots of reasons, that number varies from year to year and even week to week. To maintain a reasonable census of students, a day to day roll call is necessary. Although the truancy of a single student is not such a big deal, the sum of truancies of different students over time is.

I am surprised by the strong objection to the finger count. It effectively and quickly and permanently calls the roll. Not having to take a roll count and associated administrative paper pushing frees time for instruction.

The real problem is change. Some will always create reasons to object to change.


14 posted on 02/15/2024 7:29:03 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: bert; metmom; EEGator; Steven Scharf; PeterPrinciple; Dilbert San Diego; goodnesswins; BobL

The issue isn’t opposition to change.

It’s the lack of honesty behind the WHY.

Consider “gun crime.” The left has championed “smart gun technology, “red flag laws,” “assault weapon bans” and so on, to reduce “gun crime.”

These ideas are rejected by normal people, because they fail the WHY test. The left’s stated WHY is “these controls will lower deaths without impinging on the rights of law-abiding citizens.”

As the meme goes, Sure Jan…sure…because there are scores of other controls that will WORK and most thinking people realize their WHY is a sham. To wit: almost every solution offered up by the left reduces liberty and empowers Leviathan, not to mention the control will fail.

Now, let’s turn to taking roll. I think everyone can get behind automating mundane administrative tasks to maximize value-added activities. But in this case, most people see the WHY as a sham as well. Why not swipes? Yes, the kids may lose their ID - well, then they go to someone in school who key punches their attendance into the database and Johnny brings his ID tomorrow. Like with firearms, the solution is unnecessarily elaborate and probably is a front for something, possibly more sinister*.

The same thing happened with Covid. The WHY behind masks, shutdowns, 2 weeks to flatten the curve, vaccine mandates, etc was a sham. That didn’t stop them.

* - I will agree, that perhaps a strong element of paranoia has entered into any such discussion nowadays. But, as they say, yesterday’s conspiracy theory is tomorrow’s historical fact.


15 posted on 02/15/2024 8:31:39 AM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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To: bert

No, the real problem isn’t change. It’s loss of freedoms and the surveillance state that cannot be trusted with personal data.


16 posted on 02/15/2024 8:54:42 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus…)
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To: DoodleBob

You are over thinking the issue.

The finger register is automated taking of the roll. Schools always take rolls, every day.


17 posted on 02/15/2024 12:32:55 PM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Hamascide is required in totality)
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To: bert

Smart guns have a liberty downside that is acceptable.


18 posted on 02/15/2024 2:43:00 PM PST by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²)
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