Putin-Carlson Interview Riles the Fourth Estate

Liberty Nation News ^ | Feb 9, 2024 | Joe Schaeffer

[jacknhoo]

Tucker proves people have a hunger for information

In a hotly anticipated interview that began with a history lesson for Americans on the founding of Russia, President Vladimir Putin told Tucker Carlson that NATO expansion eastward and a 2014 coup that installed an anti-Russian government in Ukraine forced his country into war in 2022.

“In 2008… the doors of NATO were opened for Ukraine,” Putin said to Carlson in a sweeping conversation posted to X on Thursday, February 8. The former Fox News host has become the focus of intense vitriol within big-box media and political circles for traveling to Moscow to speak with the Russian leader.

“In 2014, there was a coup (and) they started persecuting those who did not accept the coup,” Putin stated. “They created the threat to Crimea, which we had to take under our protection. They launched the war in Donbas in 2014 with the use of aircraft and artillery against civilians. This is when it all started.”

Carlson: A Puppet for Putin? Carlson has been pilloried by establishment political and media figures for talking with Putin. Hillary Clinton garnered headlines by calling him a “useful idiot.” Never-Trumper Steve Schmidt, who worked on presidential campaigns for John McCain and George W. Bush, was even more harsh in his assessment.

“He is a vessel for foreign poison to reach our free society, in which he seems to delight, undermining with lies, omissions and utter nonsense,” Schmidt wrote on his Substack account. “It is important to remember that Tucker Carlson is not engaged in an act of dissent or speech. He is a propagandist carrying water for a Russian war criminal who hates the United States, and is committed to conflict with the west.”

The New York Times took a unique approach in its attacks on Carlson, warning that his new form of independent journalism makes him easy prey to be manipulated.

“Russia has defined impartiality as hewing to its official line, deviation from which risks the decidedly censorious penalty of jail time. That goes against traditional journalistic standards — standards that Mr. Carlson does not have to concern himself with at X,” The Times caustically observed in a February 8 “Media Memo” feature article. The paper stated that Carlson’s “self-produced interviews on X – which lack the slick production values he once enjoyed on cable TV – have not had the same obvious influence on the national debate that he wielded on Fox News.”

“His waning power seemed to be at least part of the reason that Fox had not done more to stop his new endeavor even though Fox said it violated the terms of his contract,” The Times added.

So, what was it about the interview that so incensed the Fourth Estate?

‘We Were Promised No NATO to the East’ “They launched a large-scale military operation,” Putin said of Ukraine. “Then another one. When they failed, they started to prepare for the next one. All this against the background of military development of this territory and opening of NATO’s doors.”

“How could we not express concern over what was happening? From our side, this would have been a culpable negligence,” Putin stressed. “It’s just that the US political leadership pushed us to the line we could not cross because doing so could have ruined Russia itself. Besides, we could not leave our brothers in faith, in fact, a part of Russian people, in the face of this war machine.”

Putin is referring to the citizens in Ukraine’s disputed eastern territories, who he asserts see themselves as Russian. Putin emphasized as part of his argument that Ukrainians as a whole are spiritually Russian, with Ukrainization being a creation of Soviet Union founder Vladimir Lenin.

Putin declared the Ukrainian government headed by President Volodymyr Zelensky is nothing more than a proxy for the United States and its foreign policy interests. “Ukraine is obviously a satellite state of the US,” he said. “It is evident. I do not want you to take it as if I am looking for a strong word or an insult. But we both understand what is happening. The financial support. Seventy-two billion US dollars was provided…. Dozens of billions of US dollars are going to Ukraine. There’s a huge influx of weapons. In this case, you should tell the current Ukrainian leadership to stop and come to a negotiating table.”

He warned about the dangers of wide-scale war due to this monolithic antipathy for Russia. “It goes against common sense to get involved in some kind of a global war and a global war will bring all humanity to the brink of destruction.”

A Media Reaction

Putin himself told Carlson that he realizes the entire dominant establishment media apparatus in the West is aligned against Russia. “It is very difficult to defeat the United States because the United States controls all the world’s media and many European media,” Putin said.

And while Putin is clearly trying to paint himself and his war efforts in the most positive light, the reaction of the Fourth Estate is one that many readers and viewers might find confusing. Of course Vladimir Putin will try to propagandize his access to foreign media, but that doesn’t mean the American people don’t want to know his rationale or even his plans for the future. In fact, some would argue that such knowledge is a necessity. The Putin interview has amassed more than 85 million views since Carlson posted it to X last night; the appetite for information is strong, and it seems the big-box media is unwilling to satiate.

[dfwgator]

They never forgave the Russians for abandoning Communism.

[IYAS9YAS]

The fifth column maybe. But not the fourth estate.

[Yardstick]

I would love to know exactly what it was that made the Democrats flip from being Russia lovers to Russia haters. It happened at some point during the Obama years. They completely reversed how they treated Russia. They went from Hillary’s reset button and Obama’s hot-mic flexibility to Putin being the #1 bad guy. The change was so stark and so sudden that there must have been an event that precipitated it, something that happened behind the scenes, it would seem. Maybe someone will write a book one of these days that reveals what it was.

[mewzilla]

Fifth Column.

[yldstrk]

Who is the Chocolate King?

[hardspunned]

“Not one inch east of the reunited German border” in NATO’s leadership’s own direct quotes (lots!).

https://nsarchive.gwu.edu/briefing-book/russia-programs/2017-12-12/nato-expansion-what-gorbachev-heard-western-leaders-early

Do you think the Uke citizens would like to have all of eastern Ukraine back like was agreed to in the Minsk Agreements or what was on the table in Istanbul? The globalists and their Kiev Quislings will leave a rump Ukraine if necessary as long as there’s one dollar worth of graft left to be had.

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

It is so interesting that you were "corrected" by a supposed "Moscow Times" statement. Sounds like Moscow, huh? But in reality, The Moscow Times is run by Stichting Potamos, in the Netherlands.

THE MOSCOW TIMES is a trademark and brand of Stichting Potamos, Amstelveen 1182 GR, NETHERLANDS. This trademark was filed to EUIPO on Friday, January 26, 2024.

THE MOSCOW TIMES is a trademark and brand of Stichting Potamos, Amstelveen 1182 GR, NETHERLANDS. This trademark was filed to EUIPO on Friday, January 26, 2024.

Are there third world conditions in Ukraine and Russia? Surely so. There are third world conditions in parts of Democrat-run inner cities here in the US. And all those tent cities and homeless encampments? Also without indoor plumbing.

It comes back, in part, to Democrats.... Like the wacky Democrats running America's foreign policy in the moment. Or in the case of Eric Adam's NYC, "chocolate" also. Or Breed's San Francisco. "Chocolate." And Bowser's DC. Chocolate. Or that 2014 Nuland-Pyatt adventure during the reign of a "half-chocolate...."

[Sacajaweau]

https://dhsprogram.com/pubs/pdf/SR147/SR147.pdf

[heylady]

“LOL, sure, because no country and its people would rationally want to join the EU and its better standard of living.”

Yes, they could be living on the streets in tent cities with no running water like the EU and the United States have.

[Sacajaweau]

See Page 2 Household Stats

[Worldtraveler once upon a time]

--- "It happened at some point during the Obama years. They completely reversed how they treated Russia. They went from Hillary’s reset button and Obama’s hot-mic flexibility to Putin being the #1 bad guy. The change was so stark and so sudden that there must have been an event that precipitated it, something that happened behind the scenes, it would seem."

[Degaston]

I’m glad that Carlson interviewed him. Putin sure does like to twist a lot of things about the history of Europe in a way we typically see Russians lie and try to justify what they have done. The Russians are greatly feared by their closest neighbors to the west and their actions of 2014-2024 have only cemented this further for decades and possibly centuries to come. The unfortunate situation now is that Russia is a nuclear power and they are hell bent on spending lots of money and lives to keep Crimea and their land bridge thru the Donbas. It will cost trillions of dollars, hundreds of thousands of lives, and risk nuclear war to ensure that Russia is expelled. At the same time he’s risking a lot to try to hold firm as his “special military operation” is extremely unpopular in Russia.

What’s needed IMO is an Armistice and then a return to Diplomacy towards trying to resolve this mess.

Putin’s reputation 100 years and 1000 years from now will be terrible and well-deserved. For the rest of his life he will continue to be a pariah on the international stage. But I doubt he’ll ever face real justice. His nuclear arsenel and the West’s long history of not being prepared to deal with him has assured that.

[Ikeon]

The Ukraine has been part of russia since 800.. hmm, so Putin is Russia's Abe Lincoln, just getting back a rouge section of the mother country?

I believe Russia saw nato putting missiles in the Ukraine, akin to china putting missiles in mexico.

Putin is protecting his country

Russia has upset the WEF money chain and must be stopped. and american tax payers are footing the bill

[TStro]

The Nazi army in Ukraine under Zelenski were wiping out the Russian supporting people in the Donbass
Putin stepped in to annex the Donbass and stop this
I know all of the history. This is now

[Sacajaweau]

https://carnegieendowment.org/2014/05/24/ukraine-s-chocolate-king-is-presidential-front-runner-pub-55708

[BitWielder1]

I watched the Putin interview and even though it's very much from the Russian perspective, I found it quite informative.
Do I trust Putin?
No.
But.
He is making a lot more sense than anyone I heard from the West.
Why don't we have a leader or spokesperson who can clearly lay out the reasons for the Ukraine war, why we are pouring billions in money and weapons into a corrupt state, corrupted by us BTW, what do we hope to achieve there and why?
The West is drowning in information but important data is false or missing. I have felt the information vacuum for a long time. The west better step up and lay out a coherent case, clean up their own mess or lose the world even if they win the war.
Also, CIA has always been a disrupting force, it can not be trusted to build nations.

[aMorePerfectUnion]

He is making a lot more sense than anyone I heard from the West.

The palpable fear from the globalists and zeepers (I repeat myself here) says it all as the other side is finally allowed to speak.

Tucker's twitter account of the interview has surpassed 110 million by this morning.

Hard for the intelligence agencies to control the narrative when the new media is more watched...

[Yardstick]

Right! Scenes like that with Democrats sucking up to the Russians, to the point where it was almost embarrassing. Can you imagine the Dems acting like that nowadays? During the 2008 campaign Obama mocked McCain for wanting to be firm with the Russians. He zinged him with that line about the ‘80s calling and wanting their foreign policy back. Can you imagine that kind of sentiment from them now?

And it wasn’t just at the superficial level. It was big policy stuff like Obama betraying Czech and Poland by removing missile defenses in order to please the Russians. Obama doing unilateral nuclear stockpile reductions to please the Russians. Hillary helping facilitate a major sale of uranium to the Russians.

Then a few years later they’re surveilling Trump claiming he’s conspiring with our ultimate enemy the Russians. It just is very odd and has never really been explained.

[PIF]

TC interviews his hero right after Prigozhin and the Wagner Group. Gets a gift from Putin: the captured watch of a Ukrainian military man who was liquidated in Mariupol. He can add that to his collection of gifted Wagner paraphernalia.

https://t.me/s/kremlin_secrets

[MeganC]

Proofread much?