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After Several Days of Freedom, Ninth Circuit Resurrects California Ammo Law
Bearing Arms ^ | 2/6/24 | Cam Edwards

Posted on 02/06/2024 2:29:51 PM PST by CFW

California gun owners didn’t get to enjoy a full week of freedom as they did when Judge Roger Benitez enjoined the state’s ban on “large capacity” magazines a few years ago, but as attorney Kostas Moros wrote on X, the Ninth Circuit’s delayed stay in Rhode v. Bonta allowed them to experience what purchasing ammunition is like in the rest of the country for a short period of time.

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Unfortunately, that brief taste of freedom came to an end, at least temporarily, on Monday evening as a three-judge panel on the Ninth Circuit granted Attorney General Rob Bonta’s request for a stay. That means that gun owners in the state are once again subjected to a background check every time they purchase ammunition, and are prohibited from purchasing ammunition online or out-of-state.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Extended News; Government; US: California
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; 9thcircuit; 9thcircus; ammunition; banglist; california; firearms
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At some point, SCOTUS needs to step in and say "The law is settled. Quit infringing on the people's 2nd Amendment Rights".

There should be penalties, including jail time, for politicians who continue to pass laws that are so blatantly against the Constitution. They know that once the Court rules against them, they just have to tweak the law a bit, and the entire process starts over again. They suffer no repercussions for their actions. One day, your gun and ammo is legal, and the next day it is not. And, you can go to jail for not knowing which day it is!

1 posted on 02/06/2024 2:29:51 PM PST by CFW
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2 posted on 02/06/2024 2:32:53 PM PST by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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Hey, it’s OK ... they probably are catching the info of gun ownership and ammo purchases of illegals, gangbangers and convicted felons also ... oh wait ... I’m in the wrong universe again.


3 posted on 02/06/2024 2:33:47 PM PST by antidemoncrat
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May they drive across state lines to purchase in person elsewhere, or are cars subject to stop search and arrest for doing so there?


4 posted on 02/06/2024 2:34:23 PM PST by desertsolitaire
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To: CFW
That would happen except there's total defiance from some circuits like the 9th and 7th that happen to have jurisdiction over states dominated by Democrats, so that their Senators bloc anyone except pinkos if they can.

The game plan from the 9th is quite clear: they have been stalling Benitez' rulings for years and are trying to drag it out long enough that Thomas or another conservative dies and they can get the cases heard by a more liberal court.

5 posted on 02/06/2024 2:35:20 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: All

Whole country is subject to judicial tyranny. Nobody can do anything without a judge’s blessing, even temporary blessings. These blessings line the pockets of lawyers, take months or years to occur, only to be appealed, overruled, rejected, by a black-robed god. It wasn’t supposed to be this way.


6 posted on 02/06/2024 2:36:29 PM PST by mmichaels1970
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To: CFW

The entire court system has been infiltrated and corrupted. Including the USSC. They even snuck a couple of communist’s past Trump and on to the SC.


7 posted on 02/06/2024 2:39:26 PM PST by Revel
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“or are cars subject to stop search and arrest for doing so there?”

I read a good while ago after one of Calif’s ban on something about them staking out Nevada gun shops for purchases by CA residents, then having the CHP stopping and searching them when returning.


8 posted on 02/06/2024 2:50:17 PM PST by doorgunner69 (When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty)
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May they drive across state lines to purchase in person elsewhere, or are cars subject to stop search and arrest for doing so there?

Buying out of state is illegal, though I've never heard of anyone being caught. There are CBP/Agricultural checkpoints at or near all of CA's major border crossings, but all they ever asked me about was fruit. Half the time they are unmanned. There is no random "stop and search".

9 posted on 02/06/2024 2:51:47 PM PST by ETCM (“There is no security, no safety, in the appeasement of evil.” — Ronald Reagan)
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The CRPA has really been putting in the work the past year. And have to give credit to Chuck Michel and his young associate Kostas Moros, who keep winning at the district level, and are not about to quit at the appellate courts.

We all knew that it would take litigation to get the anti-freedom blue states to recognize Bruen, so this all should be encouraging at some level.

One small white pill is that this was not unanimous, and that Judge Callahan dissented, saying that she didn’t think that Bonta would prevail on the merits. It’s something.


10 posted on 02/06/2024 3:10:36 PM PST by absalom01 (You should do your duty in all things. You cannot do more, and you should never wish to do less.)
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“The CRPA has really been putting in the work the past year. And have to give credit to Chuck Michel and his young associate Kostas Moros, who keep winning at the district level, and are not about to quit at the appellate courts.”


We really owe the groups that have continued the fight for our Second Amendment our heart-felt thanks. There are two or three groups that are standing up for the rights of all of us and winning in the Courts that count. When you think of the things that Trump did right, don’t forget those conservative SCOTUS appointments. Yes, they disappoint us some times, but in regards to the 2nd Amendment and pro-life rulings they have saved a lot of lives.


11 posted on 02/06/2024 3:33:52 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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“May they drive across state lines to purchase in person elsewhere, or are cars subject to stop search and arrest for doing so there?”


That’s a good question. I’ll see what I can find out on this issue.


12 posted on 02/06/2024 3:35:02 PM PST by CFW (I will not comply!)
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***and are prohibited from purchasing ammunition online or out-of-state.***

And just how they going to stop someone from purchasing out of state? You walk into an out of state shop, pick up what you want, pay in cash and out the door!

Maybe the ammo companies will start shipping ammo to California marked as “Beecher’s Bibles”. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beecher%27s_Bibles

Back in 1989, when California released a mental patient to shoot up a school and banned A-s-s-ault Rifles, the news media was ecstatic and said “So goes California, so goes the USA!”
Thirty five years later most of the USA can still get such rifles and no problems buying ammo or magazines! (Except during the Obama caused shortage of ammo)


13 posted on 02/06/2024 3:38:53 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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***or are cars subject to stop search and arrest for doing so there?***

Didn’t they use to stop traffic to check for fruits and vegetables from outside the state? How does that work on the Interstates!


14 posted on 02/06/2024 3:40:47 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: desertsolitaire

ATF has been known to scan the parking lot of Scheels in Sparks NV, looking for CA license plates.

But it’s not cost effective and they don’t do it often.


15 posted on 02/06/2024 3:46:47 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: CFW

It’s like Shall Not be Infringed has no meaning to them. They treat the 2nd Amendment as though it doesn’t exist.


16 posted on 02/06/2024 3:49:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants ( "It is easier to fool people than to convince them they have been fooled."- Mark Twain)
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***a full week of freedom as they did when Judge Roger Benitez enjoined the state’s ban on “large capacity” magazines a few years ago,****

If you will remember back, during that time, the magazine companies shipped thousands into California. I believe it was PMAG that shipped them in boxes with a frontal view of a round magazine and made it look like they were giving California the “finger”.
https://image.invaluable.com/housePhotos/ejsauction/85/747185/H8897-L330899502.jpg


17 posted on 02/06/2024 3:51:13 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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There needs to be a penalty if they try. That’s how Lawfare works: You don’t need grounds, you just need a venue that will take the case, and maybe you get lucky and find a judge who will just make new law for you.

Everyone cites the SCOTUS as a backstop, but just last week Barrett and Chief Clown did exactly what I just described.


18 posted on 02/06/2024 3:54:29 PM PST by RinaseaofDs
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To: desertsolitaire

California has “fruit inspection” stations on many inter-state routes. Often there are (or used to be, anyway) border patrol agents there too. They routinely ask about the vehicle’s contents, and I have had a car searched by these fine folks...


19 posted on 02/06/2024 4:04:29 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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To: ETCM

See my # 19. I was searched likely because I said I was coming from Algodones.


20 posted on 02/06/2024 4:06:15 PM PST by Don W (When blacks riot, neighborhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn)
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