The Return of 1848

American Mind ^ | Feb 2, 2024 | Armando Simon

[ought-six]

Going from one extreme to the other.

[ought-six]

“Lots of Germans especially went to Texas.”

Lots of Germans went all over the US. Germans have comprised the largest LEGAL immigration group to the US.

[dfwgator]

Love Fredericksburg, best German food on the planet.

[jdege]

Out of all of that, it’s the independence movement in Kalinigrad that’s likely to be the biggest problem.

[sauropod]

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[ought-six]

Fredericksburg, VA? I’ll have to check it out next time I make it out to those parts.

There is a great German restaurant in Milwaukee called Mader’s.

[dfwgator]

Texas.

[Tennessee Nana]

Marx, Karl, The Communist Manifesto, 1848

[ought-six]

Ah, Fredericksburg, TX. The Auslander?

[aquila48]

“My impression was that the movements were primarily nationalist groups trying to get out from under the thumb of the empires, primarily Prussian and Austro-Hungarian”

Good point! That was definitely the case in Italy.

[Jeff Chandler]

Mine skedaddled from Prussian-Occupied Poland

Kielbasa with every dinner?

[Jeff Chandler]

best German food on the planet

You never tasted my Grandma's Leberknödelsuppe!

[Colinsky]

“We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. “

In the original draft it was "Life, Liberty, and Private Property"

[FarCenter]

1848 is more like 1989 with the rebellions in the Warsaw Pact countries, the collapse of the USSR, Tiananmen Square and the various color revolutions.

At present, we are now in the 1890s, which were also a period of economic malaise, social disruption with striking workers, a realignment of international alliances (Russia realigned with France and Britain, instead of Germany and Austria-Hungary), and restive colonial possessions. The rise of China very much parallels the rise of Germany after unification in 1870.

[SunkenCiv]

[snip] France was next in February, where the monarchy was once again overthrown and a republic established, this time without the previous Terror. There was a feeling of déjà vu among the rest of the European aristocrats, but no Napoleon emerged. [/snip]

Wrong, and FTM the rest is pretty lame. Wiki-wacky:

[snip] Napoleon III (Charles-Louis Napoléon Bonaparte; 20 April 1808 – 9 January 1873) was the first president of France from 1848 to 1852, and the last monarch of France as Emperor of the French from 1852 until he was deposed in absentia on 4 September 1870. [/snip]

[Hiddigeigei]

"“My impression was that the movements were primarily nationalist groups trying to get out from under the thumb of the empires, primarily Prussian and Austro-Hungarian."

My earliest American ancestors were on the May Flower (John and Priscilla Alden). The German speaking ones came later in the 1700s from the Moselle and lower Rhine area. The latest German great grandfather came in about 1830-40 from originally West Fallen. As a young teenager, he was drawing pictures in the sidewalk with chalk. A man saw him, talked to his parents and took him as an apprentice to a lithography company in Bremen where he developed into the prize artist. When he was eighteen he became eligible for the Prussian military draft for an eight year term. The company had a branch in Baltimore, thought what a waste of talent. They shipped him to their affiliate in America. Rumor has it that that company had a branch in Richmond, and early during the Civil War he was involved in designing the Confederate currency.

[x]

No, I don’t see it.

The “Arab Spring” was supposed to be 1848, the “Springtime of Nations.” It wasn’t.