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To: cowboyusa

I don’t see how but I am open to hear about it. Biden and Schumer desperately want that Ukraine aid. If they take Israel aid as a stand alone package they know that Ukraine aid is likely DOA. It will force a national debate much like the debate on this thread about why we should fund it, what our strategic and political goals are, what victory looks like, is it even attainable, when, and what comes after - and of course can we afford it, how do we pay for it, and what we get out of it. It also opens the door to Trump and his first impeachment - just how corrupt a place is Ukraine and why are Biden and the Democrats trying to silence that question. They don’t want those conversations.

I do think TPTB have somewhat resigned themselves to the idea that Ukraine aid is a non starter. Notice that they went and got the EU to approve a $60 billion package on their own. The spectre of Trump looms over that one too. If we put up the money in last year, Europe never would have put real money in. And now Trump can say “see, they do have the money to fund NATO after all.” Biden is proving Trump right again and again and again - on the border, on aid to Israel and the Palestinians, and on Ukraine. I really do think Johnson is setting the traps for the Democrats that can be exploited by Trump and result in, hopefully, Congress and the WH going to the GOP in November. I could be wrong but that’s how I see it right now.


130 posted on 02/03/2024 7:47:26 PM PST by monkeyshine (live and let live is dead)
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To: monkeyshine

I don’t think Schumer is as hot for the Ukraine aid as we think. But he is hot for Israel...and he has no choice but to be hot for OUR border.


136 posted on 02/03/2024 8:02:32 PM PST by Sacajaweau ( )
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To: monkeyshine
Europe never would have put real money in.

Europe was at >$133 billion euros in Dec. 2023.

140 posted on 02/03/2024 8:16:47 PM PST by Paul R. (Bin Laden wanted Obama killed so the incompetent VP, Biden, would become President!)
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