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To: Dr. Sivana
I also don't believe that the current Cleveland Browns are the legitimate heirs of the legacy of Jim Brown, Otto Graham, Greg Pruitt, and Marion Motley. Same name, and they are allowed to claim the records, but the owner and all the players went to Baltimore.

Who cares about them? Not a one of them plays or coaches today, but there are still fans in the stands who remember they day the Browns left Cleveland and THEY are the ones who deserve the claim to that history, not a team in Baltimore.

43 posted on 01/30/2024 6:30:08 PM PST by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: pepsi_junkie

It’s the same with the Titans. Shame on them for wearing the throwback Oilers uniforms this season against the Texans.


44 posted on 01/30/2024 6:30:48 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: pepsi_junkie
but there are still fans in the stands who remember they day the Browns left Cleveland and THEY are the ones who deserve the claim to that history, not a team in Baltimore.

How far do we want to take it? There were Baltimore Orioles in the first half of the 20th Century, and the current version had been the Milwaukee Brewers before they were the St. Louis Browns. Teams move.

I happen to be a Rams fan, but they won a championship in Cleveland before moving to Los Angeles. They remain the Rams despite numerous moves.

An organic entity has to have a continuous identity, and location is an accidental trait. It would have been much better if Art Modell had sold the Browns and given a startup franchise, or pull a swap, like Carroll Rosenblum did with the Baltimore Colts (there's Baltimore again!) and the Rams. But he didn't.

I used to be a Dodger fan, and no move broke more hearts than the Dodgers leaving Brooklyn. If the Dodgers went to LA and became the Los Angeles Robins and Brooklyn got a new expansion franchise called the Dodgers (with similar happening with the New York Baseball Giants), the loss would have been just as real.
49 posted on 01/30/2024 6:43:12 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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