Posted on 01/30/2024 8:30:11 AM PST by delta7
No that is not accurate. Texas nor any state can secede from United States.
What Texas CAN do is separate into 5 smaller states but that will NEVER happen
Exactly...brute force triumphed over a people and their cause.
I lived in Tulsa for 21 years.
Bob Stoops was asked why he had such success recruiting players from Texas. He replied "I tell the kids they can go to UT and play for a state championship. Or they can come to OU and play for a National Championship!"
“But try it in practice, and General Sherman will come knocking at your door.”
Kinda, kinda not. Iraq is about 65% the size of Texas. Afghanistan is about the same. They tied us down a couple of decades and we left in defeat disguised as stalemate.
The US military is utterly too weak to conquer Texas.
And for extra fun, about 12% of the military comes from Texas.
If Sodom on the Potomac decides to invade Texas, it might not go the way they think.
“But try it in practice, and General Sherman will come knocking at your door.”
The surrender monkeys have arrived.
I wonder if we could have a United State of Texas with five sub-states? We could all remain Texans and add eight more senators to Washington...BIG GRIN and a YEHAW!!!!!
I nowhere said anything about a “surrender”. I did, however, point out the great problem that exists when challenging the monster known as the Federal Government. That problem is very real.
If you would like to advance the conversation, I’d be most interested. I often learn new things that way. However, I have no interest in trading insults of any sort.
Of course Texas could survive on their own. But the rest of us conservatives would be SOL without them and the country would go blue forever. That is why if they ever return to being independent, many other states will have to follow them into either a new country or their own independence.
No, Texas could divide itself into as many as 5 states but there is no provision for secession from the union.
Oklahoma and Louisiana would be locks to go with Texas, likely other states too.
You know what else bone maker? After the Civil War, the states of the confederacy were readmitted to the union in 1868. That’s a tacit recognition that indeed, they had left. If it was impossible that they had ever left legally, there would need to be no process to re-admit them to the union. Think about it
Abbott should send Biden a few cases of Blue Bell ice cream.
Who would get the Alamo? That's something over which people would fight.
OK--maybe I'm just dense when it comes to this, but I have what I think is a very basic question.
Once a state like Texas declares it is seceding, then laws of the existing Union immediately have no effect in Texas. Thus, the argument about whether it is "legal" to secede is non-existent, as the laws "being broken" will be existing in a different country and have no bearing at all in the new state.
How am I incorrect here?
This provides the historical background to your question about unilateral secession.
No Texas laws would be broken but many US laws would be. The Supreme Court ruled after the Civil War that secession is unconstitutional. What if the feds said, ok Texas, you can go but not another federal dollar goes to Texas including social security payments, welfare, military retirements, education funds, nothing! Could Texas take up the slack of it’s residents and others wanting to move there?
But that's my point--once Texas secedes, no US law is applicable, thus no laws have been broken. It's like trying to enforce US law on Somalia, when no equal law exists in Somalia.
Thanks for info. I’m wasn’t familiar with that formality.
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