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US special operations forces are searching for a new extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight as Ukraine shows the damage that snipers can do
Business Insider ^ | 1/28/2024 | Stavros Atlamazoglou

Posted on 01/28/2024 6:23:20 PM PST by logi_cal869

Ask any soldier, and they'll tell you that there are fewer scarier things on a battlefield than an enemy sniper. The combination of the unknown with the actual danger elevates snipers to some of the most hated figures in warfare.

But snipers are force multipliers, more so when it comes to special operations. Army Rangers, Navy SEALs, Marine Raiders, and Green Berets fight in small numbers, and the snipers within their ranks play a key role. In a team of 12-16 commandos, many will be sniper-qualified, thus maximizing the firepower of the group.

US special operations forces are now looking for a new, extreme long-range rifle for their next big fight, a possible high-intensity conflict, as the war in Ukraine has shown the damage that snipers can do, the impact they can have on the battlefield.

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To: logi_cal869

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_sniper_rifles


21 posted on 01/28/2024 6:45:42 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: Levy78

Are there observation/targeting drones loitering over the battlefield that could target a sniper after identifying a shot from the sniper?


22 posted on 01/28/2024 6:49:46 PM PST by hardspunned (Former DC GOP globalist stooge)
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To: hardspunned

My thought as well.


23 posted on 01/28/2024 6:51:23 PM PST by dadgum
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To: ClearCase_guy
...... Hmmm .... That is rather curious.

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24 posted on 01/28/2024 6:52:23 PM PST by R_Kangel ("A nation of sheep will beget a nation ruled by wolves")
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To: logi_cal869

Sorry, Snipers alone don’t win wars.


25 posted on 01/28/2024 6:53:54 PM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: hardspunned

Dumb question. Would a good signal jamming system screw up the drones? At least screw up their GPS?


26 posted on 01/28/2024 6:55:27 PM PST by oldasrocks
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To: logi_cal869

I think it would benefit the military to better train their personnel, and better utilize the weapons they have. In the right hands, a properly scoped 7.62 NATO rifle is good for way beyond 1,000 yards.


27 posted on 01/28/2024 6:56:34 PM PST by eastexsteve
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To: logi_cal869

On 14 August 2014, the Army announced it was seeking sources to produce .338 Lapua armor-piercing (AP) ammunition for use in the Mk 21 PSR to effectively engage targets out to 1,500 m (1,640 yd). The main objective is for the rifle to defeat level IV body armor at 400 meters, whether suppressed or unsuppressed, in temperature ranges of −65 to 160 °F (−54 to 71 °C). Other minimum requirements include a projectile velocity of 1,340 ft/s (410 m/s) or more at 1,250 m (1,367 yd), 1,000 ft⋅lb (1,356 J) of kinetic energy at 1,500 m (1,640 yd), and the ability to defeat both 3⁄8 in (9.5 mm) of rolled homogeneous armor (RHA) and 1⁄2 in (12.7 mm) of cast iron at 800 m (875 yd).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Remington_MSR

Unit cost $15,000
No. built 5,150 planned


28 posted on 01/28/2024 6:56:43 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: eastexsteve
In the right hands...

Irony.

29 posted on 01/28/2024 6:57:37 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Levy78

Snipers wreaked havoc on British officers during the revolution. So much so that if you were caught with a rifled firearm you were shot out of hand.

CC


30 posted on 01/28/2024 6:58:54 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: tennmountainman

(Sorry, Snipers alone don’t win wars.)

True, but they can start one!


31 posted on 01/28/2024 7:00:08 PM PST by Macho MAGA Man (The last two weren't balloons. One was a cylindrical objects Trump is being given the Alex Jones tr)
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To: SharpenedEdge

I see your Simo Hayha, and raise you a Lyudmila Pavlichenko. 309 confirmed kills.

CC


32 posted on 01/28/2024 7:01:25 PM PST by Celtic Conservative (My cats are more amusing than 200 channels worth of TV.)
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To: Celtic Conservative

309? A piker compared with 542. With iron sights.


33 posted on 01/28/2024 7:03:34 PM PST by SharpenedEdge (Stockpile. Prepare. Arm. Train. A Storm is coming.)
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To: hardspunned

There was a sniper team operating in the DC area about two decades ago.

They mentioned possible radar detection as I recollect.

The sniper team was captured after their car was sighted without radar help.


34 posted on 01/28/2024 7:03:58 PM PST by Brian Griffin
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To: hardspunned

Long story short, probably. The average drone being deployed in Ukraine is not insanely sophisticated with optics, but if you have a heat signature, it’s going to find you. You can conceal muzzle heat relatively easy if your shot cadence is very slow and you have supressor wraps and cloaking material. All that said, I wouldn’t want to fight in that theatre at all. Dones have obviously dramatically changed the battle space.


35 posted on 01/28/2024 7:04:40 PM PST by Levy78 (Reject modernity, embrace tradition. )
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To: logi_cal869

The Marine Corps just shut down its Scout Sniper School


36 posted on 01/28/2024 7:07:07 PM PST by qaz123
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To: qaz123

That was the nature of my comment.


37 posted on 01/28/2024 7:08:20 PM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Levy78

He is

But he’s got some legit folks right behind him.…Haya, Zaitsev, Mawhinney

Haya did it with an open sighted rifle, too


38 posted on 01/28/2024 7:12:19 PM PST by qaz123
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To: al baby

But many of those have the same gear and are just as good.

Go to a PRS match. Some legit folks at them


39 posted on 01/28/2024 7:13:38 PM PST by qaz123
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To: for-q-clinton

Nary a chance that could happen unless the drone was hovering


40 posted on 01/28/2024 7:14:27 PM PST by qaz123
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