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'Incredibly stark': Biden aides give lawmakers a grim assessment of Ukraine without more aid
NBC via Yahoo ^ | January 19th, 2024 | Monica Alba and Julie Tsirkin and Andrea Mitchell (Three Stooges)

Posted on 01/20/2024 8:51:35 AM PST by Mariner

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To: blackdog
"In 1984, there is a perpetual war between Oceania, Eurasia and Eastasia.."

We're there.

41 posted on 01/20/2024 9:43:14 AM PST by chief lee runamok ( Le Flâneur @Large)
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To: blackdog
Glass is half empty... the United States entered this mess to protect the elites in our governments money laundering operation.

Sounds silly?

Trump was impeached when he started poking around in Ukraine. He was getting too close to exposing it. Hunter Biden (and Joe, the Big Guy) were paid extortion money... the Clintons, Soros, etc. etc. had their dirty little fingers in Ukraine.

How many more US politicians had “investments” in Ukraine?

42 posted on 01/20/2024 9:47:24 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Dr. Franklin

When leaders subscribe to the cris-never to be wasted policy, there is no downside to bad decisions. Except for the peasants.


43 posted on 01/20/2024 9:47:35 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: dhs12345

The Clinton Foundation is busy inking contracts to rebuild Ukraine as we speak. So are all the other Beltway sociopaths. Never let a crisis go to waste. If your receivables are a little low, create more crisis.


44 posted on 01/20/2024 9:50:36 AM PST by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: Mariner

Incredible. How long does this guy think he can keep draining more money from the American people? Please someone “Just say NO”.


45 posted on 01/20/2024 9:57:59 AM PST by Hattie
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To: PGR88

Bingo


46 posted on 01/20/2024 9:59:05 AM PST by silverleaf (“Inside Every Progressive Is A Totalitarian Screaming To Get Out” —David Horowitz)
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To: blackdog
Isn't the Clinton Foundation supposed to be a non-profit or something close to it? They were involved before the war, too.

Apparently Soros help “facilitate” the coup in 2014?

How many RINOs are involved too?

47 posted on 01/20/2024 10:01:07 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: blackdog

https://frontierweekly.com/articles/vol-54/54-40/54-40-US%20staged%20a%20Coup%20in%20Ukraine.html


48 posted on 01/20/2024 10:04:33 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: Mariner

He wants his 10%. What about the suffering due to our own border invasion?


49 posted on 01/20/2024 10:08:07 AM PST by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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To: Mariner

The situation has never changed from day one. This is a USA war, fought with Ukrainian bodies and infrastructure. When we stop supplying the war ends.


50 posted on 01/20/2024 10:08:16 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (Are you ready for Black Lives MAGA? It's coming.)
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To: Mariner
Luke 14:31 Or what king, going to make war against another king, sitteth not down first, and consulteth whether he be able with ten thousand to meet him that cometh against him with twenty thousand? 32Or else, while the other is yet a great way off, he sendeth an ambassage, and desireth conditions of peace.
51 posted on 01/20/2024 10:12:12 AM PST by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: frnewsjunkie

Deport military-aged migrants to Ukraine to fight Russians.


52 posted on 01/20/2024 10:16:29 AM PST by RedEyeJack (What was the basis for the restriction? )
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To: packagingguy

Yet Trump had to beg, borrow and steal 6 billion for the wall. With a Republican House.

Screw Ukraine.


53 posted on 01/20/2024 10:20:06 AM PST by Fledermaus (It's time to get rid of the Three McStooges; Mitch, Kevin and Ronna! 1 gone, 1 almost dead. )
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To: Fledermaus

Do you know about the massive and incredibly expensive military buildup Trump was doing in NATO and stationing American forces permanently closer to Russia (in Poland) to defend against Russia and that he was the one who started arming Ukraine and that he was also having American troops training in Ukraine with the Ukrainians?


54 posted on 01/20/2024 10:34:43 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
...to defend against Russia...

Any run of the mill moron can figure out that you need to prepare to defend yourself against a potential adversary. It takes an exceptional moron to turn that policy into a 2 year proxy war. That exceptional moron is your leader. It was really bad form for you to attempt to turn this into a Trump issue. tsk tsk

55 posted on 01/20/2024 11:12:18 AM PST by BlackbirdSST (Trump or Bust! Long live the Republic.)
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To: ansel12
Do you know about the massive and incredibly expensive military buildup Trump was doing in NATO

Actually he lowered the amount being spent by getting Germany to spend more so that we spent an equal share.

and stationing American forces permanently closer to Russia (in Poland) to defend against Russia

True. All part of the European Defense Initiative and he reduced the cost of that by %10.

and that he was the one who started arming Ukraine and that he was also having American troops training in Ukraine with the Ukrainians?

Totally incorrect. It was started by OBAMA.

You always seem to have your facts mixed up. What sources do you get your info from ? Or is it a case of cherry picking articles and only remembering the things you agree with ?

56 posted on 01/20/2024 12:48:17 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370)
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To: Firehath
The Great Wall of China was once called the Ramparts of Magog and was built to keep the Scythians out of China.

Finding Gog
By Jack Kelley Wednesday January 8th, 2014 About 8 Minutes to Read

57 posted on 01/20/2024 12:55:16 PM PST by MAAG (The LORD does not choose sides, HE is a side.)
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To: UCANSEE2

Actually. Trump increased spending to strengthen our defenses from Russia by the many billions of both conventional and nuclear forces.

Trump brought back V Corps and moved its European Headquarters to Poland, closer to the front.

Obama and the Democrats refused weapons to Ukraine, Trump ended that and started sending weapons along with ending INF, and of course, we did have troops training in Ukraine under Trump.


58 posted on 01/20/2024 1:04:06 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Mariner

The Republicans may have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory in Ukraine.


59 posted on 01/20/2024 1:13:43 PM PST by Uncle Lonny
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To: Mariner

Sweet. May the end come soon.


60 posted on 01/20/2024 1:19:22 PM PST by Trumpisourlastchance
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