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'Incredibly stark': Biden aides give lawmakers a grim assessment of Ukraine without more aid
NBC via Yahoo ^ | January 19th, 2024 | Monica Alba and Julie Tsirkin and Andrea Mitchell (Three Stooges)

Posted on 01/20/2024 8:51:35 AM PST by Mariner

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To: Gaffer

If you read the article and follow the links to the sources they are using to imply that Trump contributed to Putin feeling he could get away with attacking then you will see they are from a different time period, before Trump’s presidency.

The article is from 2022, but not the evidence they are presenting.

Post 86 and 83 cover his presidency.


101 posted on 01/21/2024 1:58:54 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12

Yes, they reference earlier dates but they STILL felt them relevant to the TIME at which they reporting - trying to discredit his Presidency in preparation for 2024.

It’s just illustrative of the complete duplicity of MSM when it comes to Trump. Context and timeline are very important, but not when it comes to the MSM. It’s very tiring and boring to parse and dissect their version of the truth, and IMO most all of current reporting by them is 2024 election preparation reporting now.


102 posted on 01/21/2024 2:07:02 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Early in the thread you were thinking that Trump being tough on Russia and threatening to nuke Moscow were the lie, now you think that Trump being soft on Russia before he was president was a lie.

What do you want the truth to be?


103 posted on 01/21/2024 2:14:45 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: USA-FRANCE; ansel12; Mariner; Nextrush; Prince of Space; Gaffer

I just can’t understand why Z hates this guy...

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4211810/posts

Perhaps he doesn’t pay any attention to the BS coming from ansel12 and the Ukrainian agent, USA-France.


104 posted on 01/21/2024 8:30:33 AM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: ansel12

I wasn’t thinking anything about Trumps thoughts on pro/anti anything. I was asking a question about the disconnect of now saying he’s anti-RUS when back in 2022 when CNN (and other MSM) was trying to keep the idea he was pro-RUS alive back then.

What do YOU want the truth to be now that you’ve got a real war in UKR?


105 posted on 01/21/2024 8:42:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: BobL

No! WE must double down and send it all of NATO forces, start sending US Troops to europe—every American soldier, sailor, airman must be sent in to help victim Ukraine. Congress should declare war on Russia and Iran Today! All Carriers to the North Sea and Indian Ocean to launch strikes on Russia and Iran. We can hit St. Petersburg and sink the whole Baltic Fleet in a few hours, Carpet bomb Crimea! and we can win this war in a few weeks. The D-Day at Iran will be easy. But, the whole war may well cost 100,000 American/Canadian lives. But, if it assures Biden’s Victory, it is worth it.


106 posted on 01/21/2024 8:53:20 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade ( Ride to the sound of the Guns!)
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To: Mariner

Rather than troll and ping list and lie, just post to me, show me something you think I got wrong.


107 posted on 01/21/2024 9:03:46 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Gaffer

I don’t have a war anywhere, as far as Russia launching European wars, you have watched him as president, did he prepare for war against Russia or not?


108 posted on 01/21/2024 9:16:46 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

I’m not sure that I fully support your plan.


109 posted on 01/21/2024 9:35:39 AM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: kawhill

Yes. I wonder how many Republicans are dirty?


110 posted on 01/21/2024 9:38:18 AM PST by dhs12345
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To: ansel12

Just stop with the stupid hounding. You’re not making sense anymore always trying to ‘one-up’ me. Good bye.


111 posted on 01/21/2024 3:28:33 PM PST by Gaffer
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To: Gaffer

Obviously nothing of the sort, I was merely trying to answer you and respond to you, trying to communicate with you.


112 posted on 01/21/2024 3:35:40 PM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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