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Russia Might Be Running Out Of Tanks
Forbes ^ | Jan 10, 2024, 03:00pm EST | David Axe

Posted on 01/14/2024 3:02:47 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Russia could run out of infantry fighting vehicles in two or three years, if a recent assessment is accurate. It might run out of tanks around the same time.

According to one count, the Russian armed forces went to war in Ukraine in February 2022 with 2,987 tanks. After 23 months of hard fighting, the Russians have lost at least 2,619 tanks that independent analysts can confirm.

That’s 1,725 destroyed, 145 damaged, 205 abandoned and 544 captured T-55s, T-62s, T-72s, T-80s and T-90s.

If the Kremlin didn’t have options for replacing war losses, the Russian military would be down to just 368 tanks: far too few to defend against Ukraine’s own armor corps, which between pre-war tanks, restored tanks and donated tanks—minus losses—might number around a thousand vehicles.

But the Kremlin does have sources of replacement tanks: the Uralvagonzavod factory in southern Russia, which manufactures new T-90Ms, plus four other facilities that repair and modernize old tanks that have been moldering in storage. Some for decades.

The big question—one that no outside analyst definitively has answered—is how many tanks Uralvagonzavod can build, and how tanks the other plants can repair.

The Kremlin claims it received 1,500 new and modernized tanks following an intensive industrial effort that roughly tripled vehicle-generation in 2023. If that’s true—a big if—it would be reasonable to assume the Russian armed forces received around 500 new and modernized tanks in 2022.

Three thousand pre-war tanks minus 2,600 wartime losses plus 2,000 replacement tanks equals 2,400 tanks. As the Russian military added new formations in the 23 months since widening the war, so each field army, division, brigade and regiment would have fewer tanks than it would have had before 2022.

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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Somehow this reminds me of an old movie, I think it was BABY BLUE MARINE(1976) in which a washed out Marine trainee meets a soldier in a bar who is knowing he will be killed because he has been assigned to a Tank Core, and tanks were the ones always first hit in a battle.


81 posted on 01/14/2024 6:49:16 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Looks like the movie where Cuba invaded the USA out in the west. Their tank losses to that bunch of kids was devastating. LOL


82 posted on 01/14/2024 6:50:45 AM PST by RetiredArmy (The Bible speaks truth! Don't believe it, you do so at your own peril. You'd better be right!!)
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To: BlackbirdSST
I call it The Consortium, because it's shift work.  
83 posted on 01/14/2024 6:52:11 AM PST by kiryandil (Rocco is roccking again!!)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

In The Ukraine, the SBU kills you in jail.


84 posted on 01/14/2024 6:54:11 AM PST by kiryandil (Rocco is roccking again!!)
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To: Jonty30
Putin says the war might last 5 years. How could they last 5 years of they are almost out of tanks?

Unless they aren’t.

Or unless Putin is lying.

Nahhhh, he would never lie....

85 posted on 01/14/2024 7:02:33 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Thank you. I always post sold.

Sold?

Your Freudian slip is showing...

86 posted on 01/14/2024 7:04:20 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“ Of course I take your remarks at face value. You have your views and validate that which validates your views, and reject that which does not. Most clearly stated.”

Are you saying this does not apply to you or most as well? Curious

Stand by account analogy. If my accountant came to me and said I was worth between 47k and 370k he is not much of an accountant
To give someone a range of income like that means you are not operating on very good info, but unlike others the money Denys and millions of other youtube folks is none of my business. If people chose to visit/contribute that’s on them and YouTube

I too care about those numbers, I also care about putins aggression, to me this is money well spent a drop in the bucket compared to dei or green energy boondoggles.


87 posted on 01/14/2024 7:08:32 AM PST by blitz128
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To: House Atreides
I see that your regular opening post PRAYER SCHTICK has been abandoned.

Good catch. I guess the Zeepers didn’t notice.


88 posted on 01/14/2024 7:09:50 AM PST by Allegra
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
I always post sold.

You sure do! LOL!

89 posted on 01/14/2024 7:12:03 AM PST by Sirius Lee (Next week on The Bickersons...)
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To: blitz128
--- "Are you saying this does not apply to you or most as well? Curious...."

You might have missed it. I will restate again:

"I will wait until the conclusion of the Ukraine/Russia war to learn who is winner and who is loser. Whether it come by defeat and surrender, armistice or one or another of the governments involved collapsing, that remains for the future and for future historians."

I try to side step confirmation bias as much as possible. This is where we disagree. You rely on yours.

90 posted on 01/14/2024 7:12:38 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Matthew 6:5 “And when you pray, do not be like the hypocrites, for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and on the street corners to be seen by others.”


91 posted on 01/14/2024 7:28:27 AM PST by House Atreides (I’m now ULTRA-MAGA. -PRO-MAX)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
In the News/Activism forum, on a thread titled Forbes: Russia Lost Almost 90% Of Tanks In Ukraine 8 13.01.2024, 9:07 14,804 , Worldtraveler once upon a time wrote:
--- "Putin says the war might last 5 years. How could they last 5 years of they are almost out of tanks? Unless they aren't."

 

The David Axe article does not fully reflect the Ukrainian website, Militarny - Defense industry of Ukraine

But then again, he is "a journalist, author and filmmaker based in Columbia, South Carolina."

The title of the thread does not reflect the Forbes title, which is: "Russia Might Be Running Out Of Tanks."

The Axe article begins with "Russia could run out of infantry fighting vehicles in two or three years, if a recent assessment is accurate.

So many wiggle words are in the article that this is opinion, not news. "If" and such. And one reads "...the Russian military would be down to just 368 tanks: far too few to defend against Ukraine's own armor corps, which between pre-war tanks, restored tanks and donated tanks—minus losses—might number around a thousand vehicles."

Note then that Axe tries to paint a picture in the above quote FROM THE ARTICLE that Ukraine "might" and "could" have as many a three times the armor in the war as the Russians.

If true -- there's that wiggle word -- then Ukraine has enough armor and the West can relax as to tanks and such....

Because "Russia could run out of infantry fighting vehicles in two or three years, if a recent assessment is accurate."

That's David Axe, reporting from South Carolina, so near to the battle front. < s a r c >

Therefore, "unless they aren't" is quite an adequate and sensible reflection of the Forbes opinion piece. Time will tell.

Thank you for noting the change to the title. Those posting threads on FR are not allowed to rename it whatever they wish. It's an accuracy objective to make FR searchable for articles of interest - and not come across the same stories alternatively named. I let admin know - hopefully they have time to correct the manipulation of the article title.

Excerpt from Wiki Re Axe's background -lefty media

Leaving the Free Times soon after, Axe continued to work in Iraq as a war correspondent for The Village Voice, The Washington Times, C-SPAN, BBC Radio, Popular Science, Fast Company, and Cosmopolitan.[2


92 posted on 01/14/2024 7:34:15 AM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: All

YES the orcs have returned
https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4210144/posts?page=88#88


93 posted on 01/14/2024 7:36:57 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: House Atreides

YES ABSOLUTELY

Pray in your private prayer closets or in our communities of faith even as many are now gathering for worship services.


94 posted on 01/14/2024 7:40:44 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

This thread is brought to you by the Ministry of Propaganda of Ukraine.


95 posted on 01/14/2024 7:42:15 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

“ Of course I take your remarks at face value. You have your views and validate that which validates your views, and reject that which does not. Most clearly stated.”

Side stepping conformational bias, now there is the issue, bias is an interesting thing
Stating that I “rely” on mine is quite , if I may, biased position

Yours is correct, mine is biased, lol sounds pretty biased

I missed nothing was not referring to your position on Ukraine, in fact it is mine as well

Anyone with any sense of fog of war, intangibles, and history would hold this position. Anyone saying either side is winning is just stating an opinion. Germans were most certainly wining in 1941, and we know how that timed poition aged


96 posted on 01/14/2024 7:46:42 AM PST by blitz128
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To: kiryandil

The Consortium, because it’s shift work

Yes, noticeable that you ‘work’ in shifts. But, whatever cooperative arrangement among your group is best for you.


97 posted on 01/14/2024 7:48:07 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: null and void

Thank you. Just a typo appreciate your corrective effort.

https://freerepublic.com/focus/news/4210144/posts?page=5#5


98 posted on 01/14/2024 7:50:44 AM PST by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine 🇺🇸 )
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

>Thank you for your supportive comment.

I just will not respond when they freak-out & post nonsense.
Just not worth the time or energy to assist the ‘disrupters.’<

Aren’t you gonna post more of those stupid pix of little grey rocks?

You know, the rocks you were using as “support” mechanisms to meditate on to help you cope with “disrupters”?

I guess they didn’t work, did they?

Told ya so.


99 posted on 01/14/2024 7:53:10 AM PST by bimboeruption (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRob 12-2-2023)
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To: fso301

“””””” Most are probably temporarily disabled but later recovered, repaired and put back into action.””””””

The next sentence answered that.

“Russians have lost at least 2,619 tanks that independent analysts can confirm.
That’s 1,725 destroyed, 145 damaged, 205 abandoned and 544 captured


100 posted on 01/14/2024 7:53:25 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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