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Two Dozen Russian Helicopters Downed in One Day with 'Secret Weapon' — Kyiv
Newsweek ^ | Jan. 12, 2024 | Aleks Phillips

Posted on 01/13/2024 5:29:23 AM PST by canuck_conservative

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To: canuck_conservative

26 Russian helicopters sounds high. But either way Bad Vlad is fuming at his military’s incompetence. More egg on his face for Vlad the bullshyte Czar.


41 posted on 01/13/2024 8:16:22 AM PST by dennisw (Be positive. Every day is a new day.)
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To: canuck_conservative

Zeepers! 

42 posted on 01/13/2024 8:17:20 AM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (I didn't come here to guide lambs, but to awaken lions 🦅 MAGADONIAN ⚔️)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“Putin caused this with his stupid fantasy of remaking the USSR”

You stupidly missed why this war happened and Putin, himself, even published the reasons. Simpleton thinking.


43 posted on 01/13/2024 8:18:46 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: canuck_conservative
No American troops are being killed in Ukraine ... Ukrainians are doing all the dirty work

You need to wake up!!! The Biden administration is made up of a bunch of liars who you believe hook line and sinker. Ukraine is overrun with foreign “military advisers” many from the USA. They oversee weapons delivery and “teach” understaffed and inexperienced members of the Ukrainian military how to use them. In the real world not the one you live in... these “advisers” are doing plenty of “dirty work”, their lives are in jeopardy, and likely many are being killed and seriously injured. Who knows how long it will be until we are actually allowed to hear about it.

I have a friend who was a "military adviser" in Vietnam long before the public knew anything about the extent of our own personnel's involvement there. My uncle worked on a diesel sub which was supporting operations against the North Vietnamese long before the public had any idea that this type of thing was going on. Try and let this sink in, and see if it can make a chink in your armor of cognitive dissonance. "In May 1961, JFK authorized sending an additional 500 Special Forces troops and military advisors to assist the pro Western government of South Vietnam. By the end of 1962, there were approximately 11,000 military advisors in South Vietnam; that year, 53 military personnel had been killed. The president would soon send additional military advisors to support the South Vietnamese Army. By the end of 1963, the numbers had risen to 16,000." https://www.jfklibrary.org/learn/education/teachers/curricular-resources/military-advisors-in-vietnam-1963 The numbers above are known to have been understated. American troops were fighting and dying in combat against the Vietnamese long before the public was told. And when the public was finally made aware they were still being lied to and told that these soldiers were not troops they were just "advisers", and the numbers were greatly underplayed.

44 posted on 01/13/2024 8:22:11 AM PST by fireman15 (Irritating people are the grit from which we fashion our pearl. I provide the grit. You're Welcome.)
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Russia says it carried out 23 strikes on Kiev’s defense industry sites, troops this week

MOSCOW, January 12. /TASS/. The Russian military carried out 23 group strikes on Ukraine’s defense industry sites and bases of troops, mercenaries and nationalists from January 6-12, the Russian Defense Ministry said in a daily bulletin of the special military operation.

"Between January 6 and January 12, 2024, the Russian armed forces carried out 23 group strikes with long-range air-and sea-launched high-precision weapons, including Kinzhal hypersonic air missile systems, as well as unmanned aerial vehicles, on facilities of Ukraine’s military-industrial complex engaged in the production, upgrade and repairs of aircraft, unmanned aerial vehicles, armored vehicles, missile launchers and artillery systems. Also hit were bases of the Ukrainian armed forces, nationalist groups and foreign mercenaries," the ministry said.

The goals of the strikes were achieved and all the designated targets were hit, it said.

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According to the Russian Defense Ministry, since the start of the special military operation in Ukraine, the Russian Armed Forces have destroyed a total of 567 Ukrainian warplanes, 265 helicopters, 10,620 unmanned aerial vehicles, 447 surface-to-air missile systems, 14,578 tanks and other armored fighting vehicles, 1,202 multiple launch rocket systems, 7,694 field artillery guns and mortars and 17,345 special military motor vehicles.

45 posted on 01/13/2024 8:53:03 AM PST by Kazan
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To: canuck_conservative
As if ANYTHING the neo-Nazi Zelensky regime can be believed.

Ukraine is totalitarian hellhole, everything the Biden regime (with the help of the GOP establishment) and WEF want to turn this country into. Everything claim is true about Russia is true about Ukraine. Ukraine imprisons opposition leaders, has shutdown opposition parties, imprisoned and MURDERED dissents like Gonzalo Lira and destroyed churches.

May God damn Ukraine to hell. Death to Ukraine! May the Russians take all but the portions that have historical ties to Poland and Hungary. It must cease to exist.

46 posted on 01/13/2024 8:57:46 AM PST by Kazan
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What about Alexander Rybin, described as a pro-Kremlin journalist, but in the last few weeks of his life he had grown highly critical of officials in the region. He blamed rampant corruption for the slow rebuilding of the city and Donetsk region... found near a highway. At least Ukraine gave Gonzalo hospital care. Russia just offs their critical reporters and dumps them along a roadway.


47 posted on 01/13/2024 9:57:15 AM PST by Farmerbob
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To: CodeToad

No, comrade.


48 posted on 01/13/2024 10:15:15 AM PST by MeanWestTexan (Sometimes There Is No Lesser Of Two Evils)
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To: null and void
Well, if it were my dad, I would definitely take his word over anybody else - including little old me.

I know that Marines never abandon their own - at least we try our best not to.

But the civilian world is different. If some guy or gal gets locked up in a foreign jail, sometimes the State Department gets involved and differing amounts of pressure to release them goes into effect. Drug-related crimes and crimes of violence get less help and political/false charges and prisoners with excellent contacts get maybe more help.

With military prisoners, it's also a mixed bag, depending on how capable our enemies are and how much we're willing to commit.

I am sure that you are aware that during WWII Prisoners of War and civilian detainees were held by the Germans and the Japanese through the whole war in most cases. I had cousins held in San Mateo camp in Manila for 3 1/2 years, the parents died early from the effects of malnutrition.

Korea was a crappy place to be taken prisoner with the extra treat of relentless "brainwashing" thrown in, a communist specialty.

Vietnam captured thousands of airmen, Marines, soldiers, sailors and even a few civilians. Most were kept in very bad conditions, tortured, and held until the end of the war. Some were captured by the enemy in the field, like my best friend Jim McMurdo who was taken alive when his CAP was overrun. He was taken from village to village, beaten in front of everyone, and then at the end of the week executed. We didn't find him in time.

We had all sorts of kidnapped Americans in Lebanon and of course, the 50 plus captured in Iran at our embassy. We planned all sorts of special operations to rescue them, but the one attempt failed badly and, in the end, we had to finally wait until our enemies were ready to release them. The equation we use is, how many lives of our military folks are we willing to sacrifice to save the captured folks. It's a cold-blooded trade and one that assumes that our military men and women's lives are worth less than the prisoners.

We have all sorts of American held all over the place and some of them have no one to speak for them or help them - and yes, they are rotting where they are.

49 posted on 01/13/2024 10:40:52 AM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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Whoops! That was the San Tomas prison camp in Manila: wrong saint's name!

And you are welcome - and I thank and respect the service of your Marine Dad.

50 posted on 01/13/2024 10:45:58 AM PST by Chainmail (How do I feel about ignorance and apathy? I don't know and I don't care.)
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To: Chainmail

Then there are the ones Songbird refused to allow to be returned, or even be searched for, well after the fall of Saigon.

I think we all suspect the reason...


51 posted on 01/13/2024 10:58:29 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: Chainmail

We never forget our brothers in arms.

There’s a very old Egyptian proverb - ‘to speak of the dead is to bring them to life’, here’s to you, Jim McMurdo!


52 posted on 01/13/2024 11:04:58 AM PST by null and void (I identify as a conspiracy theorist. My personal pronouns are told/you/so.)
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To: MeanWestTexan

“No, comrade.”

Still demonstrating your shallow thinking.


53 posted on 01/13/2024 11:50:22 AM PST by CodeToad (Rule #1: The elites want you dead.)
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To: canuck_conservative
Ah! They are using an Ultra hypersonic Whiffle Poofter with whistle cue!


54 posted on 01/13/2024 7:16:44 PM PST by Candor7 (Ask not for whom Trump Trolls,He trolls for thee!),<img src="" width=500</img><a href="">tag</a>)
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To: Chainmail
Most were kept in very bad conditions, tortured, and held until the end of the war. Some were captured by the enemy in the field, like my best friend Jim McMurdo who was taken alive when his CAP was overrun. He was taken from village to village, beaten in front of everyone, and then at the end of the week executed. We didn't find him in time.

That's a rough memory to live with - prayers of you and for McMurdo's family and loved ones.

55 posted on 01/13/2024 7:23:27 PM PST by GOPJ (FoxNews Lawrence Jones needs to visit Black, Hispanic and Asian breakfast places too.Let's get real)
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To: Chainmail
Thank you for your service. We can never repay your debt.

Hopefully, we've learned from our past experiences. I think Trump got it right. Hopefully, other Presidents in the future will follow his lead.

56 posted on 01/13/2024 7:30:59 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: alternatives?
If this is true, that doofus Biden is creating a situation where the Russians can finally test whether their old nuclear missiles on submarines will work satisfactorily. I know, we have better ones, and we can win this.

A lot of risk so creeps like Hunter Biden and his friends can shake down small corrupt countries.

57 posted on 01/13/2024 7:33:15 PM PST by GOPJ (FoxNews Lawrence Jones needs to visit Black, Hispanic and Asian breakfast places too.Let's get real)
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To: canuck_conservative

As with most things in Ukraine…..don’t believe everything you read…I’ll wait for more confirmation


58 posted on 01/14/2024 4:44:57 AM PST by SPRINK
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