Posted on 01/04/2024 3:34:32 PM PST by Angelino97
“If I criticize America with Joe Biden in charge that does not make me anti-American.”
No..makes you a patriot.
No, implying that it was a Mossad Conspiricy ALONE Does.
I would think Epstein worked for anyone who would pay him - Mossad, CIA, GRU, MI-6, you name it.
Harry is useless, I agree. He made himself a commoner and is no longer a Royal, at least for the time being. I don’t know if he can get back into the Royal Family, but word is that Meghan must go if that is to happen.
William is useful and he may become king sooner than later.
I know Charles is a globalist, but I don’t know where William stands on that.
Epstein was worth what, around 500 million? Anyone worth more than that is being run by some nefarious government operation?
Priests who take a vow of poverty fondle children all the time.
There are bad people, they do horrible things, every day.
Is it because of their religion, ethnicity or nationality? Do they need a government to back them? No. It’s because they’re horrible people.
We don’t know if he was worth anything. I wouldn’t trust the numbers. Whomever owned Epstein owned everything. He was just the help, so his personal wealth could have been much lower.
Yeah, I know some priests and school teachers molested kids, but they did it as an aside to their job. What Epstein did was his job.
How many priests and teachers owned their own island, ostensibly, and were able to hobnob with the rich and powerful at cocktail parties and were able to fly people to their island and New Mexican ranch?
Ok. We’ve established that people without a lot of money do similar things, they just don’t have the wealth and power to cover it up, personally anyway. The Catholic Church, much more money and power than Epstein though.
What government agency was running the church? Which ethnicity is to blame for those atrocities? Secular Jews? Italians? Irish?
You’re making connections to Soros, the Rothschilds, secular Jews and Mossad to explain Epstein though. It’s quite telling.
Should one make this connection what would you say?
Trump and Epstein were acquaintances, seen together multiple times over decades. They shared flights on Epstein’s plane. Seen at parties together at each other’s properties .Trump called him a terrific guy and said he knew Epstein liked them young at least twice, once in a New Yorker article and another time on Stern’s radio show. The person who helped negotiate a deal with Epstein as a US attorney was nominated by Trump as his labor secretary a few years later.
Would it be fair to then assume there was some nefarious agreement between them?
I say no. But there is more factual evidence of a collaboration between Trump and Epstein than with Epstein and Mossad or Soros or the Rothchild family.
No government is running the church. No individual has the money to buy an island and spend hundreds of millions of dollars building it to code so that powerful and prominent people can be owned. You are welcome for the confessional by governments if you want. That’s how evil works.
I make connections between Soros and Rothschilds because that’s what they do. Secular Jews want socialism. You will defend the secular Jew wanting the most evil system in the world, responsible for murdering 250 million people, enslaving a billion, starting the majority of major wars and aborting over two billion children all because you view all Jews as the chosen people and, consequently above reproach because they are, in your view, the Chosen people. I won’t do that. Anybody who can vote liberalism or socialism are evil people. You cannot support evil without being evil.
Epstein is an intelligence asset, because that was what was told to Trump. The only thing known certainly is that he’s not primarily a US intelligence asset even if he’s loaned his services to the US government from time to time. It’s likely Israel intelligence, because of his connection with Ghislaine.
Trump and Epstein attended the same parties. Trump did not go to his ranch or to his island. They shared a domestic flight because, likely, Epstein was trying to recruit him the same way that he recruited everybody else.
Trump also called King Jong Un a terrific guy. Do you think that Trump meant those words as well. You have to listen to beyond the terrific guy words. Those are meaningless words, because after Trump called him a terrific guy, he made mention that Epstein like his girls really young. That’s the meat. He dropped the bomb and you missed it, because you couldn’t get past the words, “He’s a terrific guy”.
You can wait for writings in the sky before taking a position. My position is an educated guess based on the existing evidence and suppositions.
Yeah.
When you claim I hold positions that I never said, you are done.
I don’t defend the secular Jew unless they are being accused of BS. I don’t think anyone is chosen by a god, nor do I think anyone is above reproach . I don’t think secular Jews all want socialism.
If your suppositions about me are that wrong, what else can you be wrong about?
Some here will and have. Their position is that because they believe that the Jews are the chosen people, that anything they do is above reproach.
I’m sorry for unfairly maligning you, but I’ve been as unfairly maligned here as well. I misunderstood you.
Anybody who votes for the left wants socialism. They have no hope in Heaven, at the very least because they don’t believe in Heaven, so they try and create it on earth and they don’t care what happens to people once they have lived their life in socialist splendor. They don’t care if millions of people die because of socialism. You’ll be hard pressed to find those on the left or the secularists that don’t want socialism. They’ve been brainwashed in the university system to believe that heaven can be made on earth and they will have it, no matter how many people they have to go through to get it.
I may not know the specifics but the generalities of what I understand seem to be lining up as I see it.
Don’t forget that another man named in these documents Jean Luc Brunel was arrested by French police, jailed and found hung in a prison cell on a Saturday morning just like Epstein.>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Which indicates that Epstein was only a mere part of this international ring of extortionists.
My bet is that this ring seviced many clients, not just the Mossod.My bet is Saudis, China, Iran,North Korea and the UK.
Now you are just throwing a bunch of unrelated things into the conversation.
Personally I am not concerned about heaven or hell. I’m an atheist. Saved people, chosen people, all of it BS.
My father is a retired Assembies of God minister who graduated from the Bible school run by former AG Ashcroft’s father in Missouri who is still alive at 88. His born again daughter has ghosted him. His atheist son and granddaughters care for him.
My grandfather was an actual brown shirt nazi in Stuttgart who rejected my mother because she wasn’t the right kind of person because she was a war refugee as a child. Had he lived to meet my wife it probably would have killed him.
It’s poison.
I’ve heard all the arguments. I was raised to believe all of it. My experience has shown me it’s all a crock of sh+t.
I’ve met homeless drug addicts with a more logical view of right and wrong than most of the people I knew from the church.
People suck. They can and will continue to do horrible things.
Attempting to blame it on an ideology, skin color or ethnicity is stupid.
Deal with facts without resorting to assumptions based on ethnic or religious groupings is a more effective way to judge.
I hear you and I’m sorry for your experiences. However, most atheists are socialists. Most socialists don’t care what happens to future generations as long as they get theirs now. That has been my consistent experience with socialists.
I gave you the facts on that point. Very nearly all atheists, because they don’t believe in a Heaven in the future want to create it on earth in the now. That is why they advocate people working for free so their assets and time can be taken from them and given to another.
As Christopher Hitchens said, based on his conversation with European socialists, “What is the point of trying to create Heaven on earth if it won’t last more than one generation?”
The answer to that is the socialist doesn’t care if doesn’t last beyond his life, as long as he got his in the now.
Heaven anywhere isn’t a concept atheists are concerned about, at all, either here or after they are dead.
If religious folks believe in heaven, why would they be concerned with what other people do if it doesn’t affect their eternal soul?
Perhaps reevaluate your assumptions.
>> If your suppositions about me are that wrong, what else can you be wrong about?
I don’t think Jonty’s wrong. I think he’s dead on in his observations and conclusions.
And again, I have acknowledged that atheist don’t believe in Heaven. That is why the majority leans towards socialism so they can create their heaven on earth. When they die, whatever hellish consequences they have created from installing socialism don’t matter to them.
Their only concern is the life they have and they want the best life they can have, no matter what happens to other people as a result of that best life. I’ve talked with enough liberals to make this supposition.
Why would someone who thinks the concept of heaven is a myth want to create it on earth?
Does someone who thinks a heaven exists want to create hell on earth?
And yes. Greedy, narcissistic people will want everything for themselves, always., regardless of their religion, political affiliation or ethnicity.
Aww really?
I guess I have a lot to think about then.
You’re perceptive!
I know! Witty too!
Glad you were here to put me in my place with your logic, and stuff.
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