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1 posted on 12/26/2023 5:52:00 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Unfortunately, the rule of law is dead.


2 posted on 12/26/2023 5:54:18 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (The worst thing about censorship is █████ ██ ████ ████████ █ ███████ ████. FJB.)
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Nimarada is not eligible


3 posted on 12/26/2023 5:54:36 PM PST by South Dakota (Patriotism is the new terrorism .)
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Looks like pjmedia dunked on Lady Loomer.


4 posted on 12/26/2023 5:55:03 PM PST by nwrep
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This is how Twitter/X Community Notes Flagged Loomer’s Tweet:

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This is false. The Constitution lists only three qualifications for the Presidency: Be at least 35 years old, be a natural born citizen, and must have lived in the United States for at least 14 years. Haley meets all of those. ‘Anchor babies’ are not illegal.

Sources

https://www.whitehouse.gov/about-the-white-house/our-government/the-executive-branch/

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/19/1158172815/a-visit-to-nikki-haleys-hometown-where-race-still-exists

https://www.vox.com/2015/8/21/9187547/birthright-citizenship-anchor-babies


5 posted on 12/26/2023 5:55:37 PM PST by SeekAndFind
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Nikki Hillary is unacceptable what part of that don’t we understand?


8 posted on 12/26/2023 5:59:33 PM PST by Nextrush (FREEDOM IS EVERYBODY'S BUSINESS-REMEMBER REV. NIEMOLLER)
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There’s a Barry Soetoro joke in there somewhere.


9 posted on 12/26/2023 5:59:38 PM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute. )
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“This is nonsense. She’s no more disqualified for where she was born than I am.”
——Barack Hussein Obama

Cabinet member Jennifer Granholm was born in Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada and is ineligible to be in the line of succession to the Presidency.

Popular former Governor of California Arnold Schwarzenegger was born in Thal, near Graz, Austria and could not run for President.


10 posted on 12/26/2023 5:59:46 PM PST by frank ballenger (There's a battle outside and it's raging. It'll soon shake your windows and rattle your walls.)
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Laura is going to lose on this one.


11 posted on 12/26/2023 6:04:53 PM PST by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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BTTT!!!


12 posted on 12/26/2023 6:07:57 PM PST by musicman (The future is just a collection of successive nows.)
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Nimrod-duh is GOPee through and through.


14 posted on 12/26/2023 6:08:23 PM PST by Paladin2
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I finally found this little nugget of an oblique reference to natural-born citizens in Federalist #68, by Alexander Hamilton, discussing the Electoral College. It was assumed that the Electors, separated across all of the states, would investigate and decline to vote for "creature[s]" of "foreign powers."

Federalist #68 (Alexander Hamilton):

Nothing was more to be desired than that every practicable obstacle should be opposed to cabal, intrigue, and corruption. These most deadly adversaries of republican government might naturally have been expected to make their approaches from more than one querter, but chiefly from the desire in foreign powers to gain an improper ascendant in our councils. How could they better gratify this, than by raising a creature of their own to the chief magistracy of the Union? But the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort, with the most provident and judicious attention.

What could Hamilton possibly have meant by "creatures of their own" raised by foreign powers? Could these "creatures" be children of non-citizen parents who still hold allegience to their home country?

What did Hamilton mean by "the convention have guarded against all danger of this sort" if not for both the natural-born citizen requirement for the President and the original intent of the Electoral College?

Earlier in Federalist #68, Hamilton writes:

It was equally desirable, that the immediate election should be made by men most capable of analyzing the qualities adapted to the station, and acting under circumstances favorable to deliberation, and to a judicious combination of all the reasons and inducements which were proper to govern their choice. A small number of persons, selected by their fellow-citizens from the general mass, will be most likely to possess the information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations.

Today's Electoral College is a rubber-stamp for the candidates, pre-selected state-wide slates of party insiders that vote the Electoral College allocation for the candidate.

What the Framers intended was for non-government citizens to be selected in each locality (Congressional district) to meet at the designated time, to "analyze the qualities" of the candidates, and "possess information and discernment requisite to such complicated investigations."

In other words, the Hamilton expected the Electoral College to review the qualifications of the candidates, weed out the reprobates and foreigners, and then vote for the person whom they thought was best "adapted to the station" to be President.

These were the "guards" of "provident and judicious attention" that Hamilton was referring to, that would be on the lookout for "all dangers of this sort."

The biggest danger, enough of a concern to be mentioned in Federalist #68, was "creatures" of foreign powers becoming President.

-PJ

16 posted on 12/26/2023 6:18:08 PM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Not a lawyer nor a Constitutional expert, but I’ve seen lots of opinions on the meaning of ‘natural-born citizen, including some that said my dad and uncles weren’t natural-born citizens because my grandfather had not yet gotten his American citizenship at the time of their births, regardless of the fact that grandma was an American citizen and that they were all born in the U.S.

To answer the question we need to try figure out what the authors of the Constitution meant when they wrote the words. The phrase reads: “No Person except a natural born Citizen, or a Citizen of the United States, at the time of the Adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the Office of President”. This means that they were OK with someone becoming President no matter where they were born as long as they were citizens when the Constitution was ratified.

Naturally, all of the Founders were citizens of another nation, Great Britain, at their births, but had Lafayette, Von Steuben, or Pulaski become citizens before the Constitution had been ratified, they would have been eligible to be President.

This implies to me, that they weren’t all that worried about parents’ citizenship status but rather the individual in question. But I’ll admit I could be wrong.


18 posted on 12/26/2023 6:23:00 PM PST by hanamizu ( )
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Subject to its jurisdiction
Means someone who is a citizen
Someone who is not a citizen annoy give birth to a baby that is suddenly a citizen
No one here illegally has ever given birth to a citizen regardless of how badly that has been interpreted
There is no such thing as a birther
Just illegals according to the constitution


22 posted on 12/26/2023 6:28:45 PM PST by panzerkamphwageneinz
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Marjorie Taylor Greene Blasts Possible Trump Campaign Hire Loomer—Calls Her ‘Unstable And A Documented Liar’

https://www.forbes.com/sites/saradorn/2023/04/07/marjorie-taylor-greene-blasts-possible-trump-campaign-hire-loomer-calls-her-unstable-and-a-documented-liar/

Constitutional law doesn’t seem to be her strong suit.


23 posted on 12/26/2023 6:29:19 PM PST by FarCenter
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She’s right. Nimratta is not eligible.


29 posted on 12/26/2023 7:00:44 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Selectively reading bits and pieces of the law is not how the law as a whole works. Haley is a natural born citizen. People on the political right need to get over using NBC arguments when they do not apply.


30 posted on 12/26/2023 7:04:44 PM PST by Widget Jr (🇺🇸 Trump 2024 🇺🇸)
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Natural Born has nothing to do with a “citizenship status.” If you have to ascertain a status you are not natural born, i.e. born two citizen parents within the physical jurisdiction of your country.

Now, let the people who can’t understand Supreme Court Decisions or comprehend the Federalist Papers etc have the floor.


36 posted on 12/26/2023 7:22:11 PM PST by freedomjusticeruleoflaw (Strange that a man with his wealth would have to resort to prostitution.)
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I was surprised that Joe DeGenova and Victoria Toensing are pushing Haley for VP on grounds the ticket would more easily win. But they didn’t say how replacing one disloyal VP with another would improve things.


39 posted on 12/26/2023 7:24:11 PM PST by Theodore R. ( )
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I will be very reluctant to cast a vote for Nikki Haley, even if Trump ends up choosing her as his VP running mate. That said, the “natural born citizen” issue is settled. It’s over. And Laura Loomer, by all accounts, is a nut - Trump’s cause is not well-served by people like her.


43 posted on 12/26/2023 7:55:32 PM PST by AnotherUnixGeek
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There is zero chance that this will be a factor in this or any future Presidential election.


47 posted on 12/26/2023 8:36:21 PM PST by Jim Noble (The future belongs to those who show up)
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